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Democrats Delay In Hopes to Deny

There may be some changes coming to the make-up of the Waterworks Board.  The Board hasn’t been able to reach a quorum because Democratic appointed members Frank Short and John Bayt, are having problems showing up to meetings.

The two haven’t shown up for weeks, delaying a vote on the transfer of the city’s water and waste water facilities to Citizens Gas.   However, an unintended consequence of  Short’s and Bayt’s inability to show up is that their absences are putting close to $4 million worth of water projects on hold which could cost the city thousands of dollars in penalties.

Waterworks director Matt Klein, would not offer an opinion on why Bayt and Short weren’t showing up but he did outline what was at stake with board members being absent.

Matt Klein

The fact that Short and Bayt haven’t been able to show up, has caused some Waterworks Board members to ask the Mayor’s Office about what action can be taken.  According to Council ethics rules Board members can only be removed for cause, and attendance can fall under that category.

However, since Short and Bayt are Democratic appointments, the more likely scenarios are the Council could dissolve the Board, expand the Board membership and give the Mayor more appointments or simply eliminate the Board’s power to vote on the deal.  The Waterworks Board was created by ordinance, not state statute, so it exists at the pleasure of the Council.

But this is the perfect reason why water company should not be in the hands of politicians but professionals who know what they’re doing and don’t play games with the ratepayers time and money.

  • Think Again

    Both these appointees are political hacks.

    Short doesn't have trouble showing occasionally to collect his WashTwp trustee salary, which hasn't been cut, even though the township shed its fire department three years ago.

    But for your information, the “professionals” at Violia have screwed thing sup pretty badly, too, whilst lining their pockets.

    The more I read about the larger water utility sale deal, the more I have to ask: are we really so stupid that we'll let $200 mil in street repair cloud our judgment?

    The answer may be: yes.

    Sell the damned utility for less, raise taxes or cut elsewhere (or both) for streets and roads. The new Citizens utility will sell public bonds to pay for the purchase, and we're really watching an economic shell game here.

    Still, Bayt and Short should show up or resign.

  • varangianguard

    That last paragraph made me think that this was some kind of Guest post. lol

  • Taxpayer 834512

    Call me eternally naive (and maybe I deserve it), but I can't remember a time when we've been more collectively fed-up with “shell games”.

    I concede we need better sidewalks and fewer abandoned houses. That doesn't deem infrastructure improvement affordable, any more that I can justify sending my eldest kid to a more elite university or believe that everyone should have health care. There's a neat cupcake store on Illinois that I wish everybody could try- but that doesn't mean we can buy everyone cupcakes either.

    Transfer the water company, try to get us out of the old deals with Veolia and whoever, and make the infrastructure pitch to fix and tear-down stuff separate.

    If we're not going to make our spending transparent and understandable, stop wasting our time with smoke and mirrors. Just have us line-up on the circle, empty our wallets and purses in a vat while the Mayor and police watch us. At least that would be more honest, direct way to collect.

  • Taxpayer 834512

    No kidding on Short. In your face, the Washington Township board gives themselves a 60%+ raise, WHILE we're in the middle of the 2008-09 economic debacle- IN YOUR FACE, while you're IN the room….

    If there were trading cards for corruption, I would covet one for Frank Short. Keep your Honus Wagner…..

  • Dave

    The public trust concept makes sense, but Taxpayer makes some good points.

    Why keep the same management company, which is connected with the water company's current operating problems? How does that make sense?

    What's the mission connection, between the water company, gas company, and road paving or sidewalk replacement? Do the infrastructure improvements have a life matching that of the bonds or loans; to be repaid by citizens?

  • http://twitter.com/IndyStudent Matthew Stone

    Taxpayer, the deals with Veolia and United Water are staying in place at least until the end of the current contracts. It'll be hard enough for Citizens to find 262 million in efficiencies without Veolia to worry about. With Veolia, it might be near impossible.

    From the way Citizens Energy reps talked to me a few weeks back, they'd love nothing more than to at least re-negotiate Veolia's and United's contracts, but were unable to. I'm guessing it was a key factor in the decision to let Citizens take over.

    It's too bad I can't support this deal because we have infrastructure attached to it. That is a worthy cause, but should be budgeted and debated separately. As the Wishard and various school referendums have demonstrated, the public will support new spending if a good case is made.

  • Idea person

    Maybe Jackie Nytes could serve on the board. She had no problem selling her soul to Ballard in voting for the deal. She would be perfect to follow his orders and never ask questions.

  • Taxpayer 834512

    You don't even have to make a “good case”, you just have to get emotion ramped-up about the children, old people, poor people, new jobs, or whatever we're “longing for” to be fulfilled (amazingly coinciding with somebody getting help getting re-elected).

    I'm sorry to be some sort of tape loop of the Grinch's grandfather, but after Conseco, Lucas Oil, the Library, Wishard and now this horse*#%, it's a Groundhog Day repetition that keeps playing over and over and over…..”It's for the children…..It will pay for itself in jobs…..It will help us compete…..We can escape the stigma of being “Naptown”…..It's what a truly civilized country would do….”

    I think truly civilized cities or countries face reality.
    I think they stop creating children that lack parents, spending money that doesn't exist, and making promises that can't be kept.

  • http://twitter.com/IndyStudent Matthew Stone

    Really, that was my objective side speaking. That, despite some concerns, there isn't an anti-tax revolt in the air unlike the situation in 2007.

  • http://twitter.com/IndyStudent Matthew Stone

    There is no logic behind keeping Veolia's contract the way it is. It's extremely one-sided, and their poor management and the bad contract are part of the reason we're in this mess now.

  • Taxpayer 834512

    No disagreement. But, I contend Ballard and much old school politics still don't “get it”.

    We're far adrift from waterworks, but I think most people realize the days of getting something for nothing are gone. They want the straight scoop (the STRAIGHT scoop) on what the bad news is- and then let's get started.

    All levels of goverment. The sooner we start, the sooner things get worse so they can then get better.

  • Indy4U2C

    Short is NO stranger to TAX & SPEND Democrat policy that drives UP our taxes. Remember he spent an extraordinary amount of OUR tax money in legal fees to a law firm known for its affection to democrats that amounted to thousands more in legal fees than if he had just settled the petty TOWNSHIP matter.

  • pascal

    Isn't our hope in the Regulatory Commission who has seen thru the smoke and mirrors?

  • wilson46201

    According to the Waterworks Board official page at http://www.indy.gov/eGov/City/DWW/Governance/Wa...
    there are seven board members:
    Dr. Marvin Scott, Chair
    Jack Bayt, Vice-Chair
    Dan Demars, Member
    Larry Giegerich, Member
    Samuel Odle, Member
    Frank Short, Member
    Dr. Philip Borst, Secretary/Treasurer

    Surely 5 out of 7 present would be a quorum so the alleged absences of just Short and Bayt shouldn't be crippling the Board. There's surely more going on than Abdul lets on. Interestingly, perennial GOP Congressional candidate Marvin Scott is Chair of this dysfunctional board. The most basic job of any chairman is to convene meetings – why can't Scott accomplish that?

  • Think Again

    Your point is noted, Wilson. But Mr. Short and Mr. Bayt appear to be serial absentees.

    And our party is up-to-here with that kind of nonsense. Off with their heads. The Ice Miller connection is overly apparent. And expensive.

    Reminds me of the story my grandpa once told me. Seems he was listening to his grocer whine about the 2-3% profit margins, and how difficult it was to make ends meet. Replied Grandpa:

    “Funny. I've never met a poor grocer.”

    Ditto for Ice Miller tax-suckers.

  • http://twitter.com/IndyStudent Matthew Stone

    While we're fantasizing, I've always hoped that someone in city government, anyone, will look at all the federal dollars that prop up many city and county programs and wonder “my gosh, what happens if this money isn't available next year?”

    What if we had to fund IndyGo or build the new Wishard Hospital without special federal bonds or stimulus money or whatever? What if federal grants for Click It or Ticket programs weren't available to IMPD? Would we still be supporting those programs?

  • Taxpayer 834512

    The Barnes and Thornburg Express with Casey Vaughn was on the radio this morning as well. Recusal seems to be a quaint practice from a bygone era.

  • Taxpayer 834512

    Aye, Aye, Sailor.

  • indiana_barrister

    Sam Odle resigned, Phil Borst is not a voting member. No quorum because the Ds are no shows.

  • http://rtv6blogs.com/rtv6_capitol/2010/06/04/you-call-this-a-strategy/ Capitol Watchblog » Archive » You Call This a Strategy?

    [...] I wrote yesterday, two Democratic members of the Waterworks Board have missed the last three meetings, holding up a [...]

  • Think Again

    The IURC has been, for at least 30 years, a paper tiger. At best.

    So, Pascal, to directly answer your question: no. I don't expect them to halt this sale. The revolving door between IURC and it staff, and the private sector (doing utility work) is disgusting.

  • pascal

    I suppose there are plans to alter this:http://indiana.typepad.com/fwob/2010/06/rasmussen-releases-new-poll-coats-47-ellsworth-33.html but I doubt it.

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