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It Was Time, Not Tea, That Defeated Dick Lugar

Although some may find it hard to believe, Richard Lugar’s main opponent this primary season wasn’t Richard Mourdock, the Tea Party, Club for Growth or FreedomWorks, it was time.

This is not to say all those factors didn’t matter.  Throw in  millions of dollars in an air campaign, a feisty opponent with a lot of energy and a Republican party that has become much more ideologically conservative than in years prior and they all are the right ingredients for defeat.   It also didn’t help Lugar had spent two weeks dealing with a residency matter that should never have been an issue in the first place.  However, the final addition to the mixture, was time.

Richard Lugar had served, in my opinion honorably, for more than three decades.  However, for the Republican voter, that was too long.

The Howey-DePauw poll showed that most of the Republicans who were opposing Lugar weren’t necessarily big Mourdock supporters, but they had simply felt that Lugar had been there too long and it was time for a change.   When breaking down Mourdock’s support, 23% said they were supporting him because they thought Lugar had been in office too long, 16% thought it was time for change, 10% said it was time for new blood and 6% thought Lugar should retire.  Only 18% of Mourdock’s supporters cited ideology.

Even in anecdotal conversation with my gardener this morning I asked who he was voting for.  He told me that he thought Lugar was a good man, but he had just been there too long and it was time for a change.

Looking at the map of the electorate, a lot of Republicans felt that way.  Mourdock won in the rural areas and donut counties and he stayed competitive in Indianapolis.  Mourdock won every donut county except Boone.    I had several GOP precinct committeemen call me over the course of the evening and the totals they were giving me showed a very close race in the city.   When I heard, Lugar on the Amos Brown radio program Tuesday afternoon appealing to African-American voters to pull a Republican ballot I knew this was not going to end well.  And it didn’t.

The good news for Lugar is that he can go back to the Senate and spend his final days being an advocate for Indiana.  And he won’t be hurting for money, I can easily see him on a number of think tanks and speaking engagements.

Mourdock will have some challenges.  The polls show him and Democratic challenger Joe Donnelly running a competitive race.  And Mourdock will also have to do some outreach to The Indiana Republican establishment and business class.  I have already heard from Republicans who say they would not support Mourdock if Lugar loss.  So while Mourdock may have gotten 60% of the Republican primary vote, he cannot win without a good chunk of that 40% that went for Lugar.   However, those are issues to elaborate on for another day.

For now Lugar leaves national politics, the way he began, with a loss.  To paraphrase the Rolling Stones, time was not on his side.

 

  • Ramon

    leeches…if you are going to insult me, at least spell the words correctly.

  • Ramon

    That is your problem, Indyernie,  no one has f….ed you in 25 years.

  • Scooter

     You are insulting on your own.

    Lunkhead… lama-breath… lippy-lu… lippy-dippy-doo…. la-la land…

    and now, the big naughty word…

    LIBERAL !

     

  • Scooter

     I WANT my representative(s) to disagree with those from other states, and stand their ground as they push Indiana’s interests forward.

    Going for a consensus always fails…..  that’s one of the first rules of effective leadership.

    Consensus building is for those that would squelch new ideas, as they lack the courage to stand their ground.

  • Scooter

     Dude, smoking that stuff leads to bad dreams….

  • cynical sam

    The CONgressional Record is a good place to start.

  • G Square

     Consensus and compromise are not the same thing.  Compromise gives everyone a  piece of what they want but doesn’t require them to change their ideals.  Compromise allows the process to move forward, even if you’re only achieving baby steps towards your ultimate goal.  Legislators who are unwilling to compromise give us exactly what we’ve had for years, a do nothing congress who’s more interested in re-election than the people’s business.

  • Rico

    So you speak for ‘most of us’ do you?

  • Dave

    A “do nothing” Congress or government is far preferable to the eat everything in sight blob (do everything), that we’ve got now… 

  • It is what it is

    Apparently, OUR or MY representative won the primary the other night, and YOURS did not.
    Maybe its time for YOU to move to where YOUR views are more better represented.

  • Scooter

     Oh, you mean that ‘thing’ that Congressmen & women can go back into up to 30 days later and revise their remarks before the ink is set??

    That Congressional Record??

  • Scooter

     Now Ramon…. that doll doesn’t count.

  • Scooter

     Your explanation of ‘compromise’ is better known as ‘incremental’ legislative BS.  When no one has a good idea crap is thrown out there & we slowly move in a direction…. what the end purpose is, no one knows. But by the time we are there the objective is blurry or the ‘problem’ that was supposed to be fixed has either changed, or no longer exists…. 

    BUT DAMNIT!  WE ALREADY SPENT TIME & MONEY SO LET’S GO WITH IT!!

    Dumb way to run a railroad.

    (Oh yeah…. can you say AMTRACK?)

  • Bemused

    Pretty sure that the next Civil War in this country won’t be between the North and South, but between the two ideological factions that define both political parties, extreme conservatism and liberalism.

    As for myself, I’m glad I stocked up on Lake City surplus ball ammo when it was cheap and available.

  • Pascal

    As a matter of future history I will be pleased to learn from posters here of the very first thing Mr. M accomplishes for Indiana in the Senate.  Feel free to report it-you know, where he makes a difference.  But, as I’m kind, don’t hold your breath waiting to report it.

  • Scooter

    I prefer Speer Gold-Dot’s.

    Isn’t ‘choice’ a wonderful thing?

  • Scooter

     Not reaching across the aisle, for starters….

  • Bemused

    If you got the cash, sure.  But 10K rounds should get me through the inevitable die-out.  

  • Scooter

     AS far as the Chrysler bail-out…. some vocal folks supported it, not all residents of this State.  
    Who now owns a large percentage of Chrysler, (since the US taxpayer took care of it’s debt) ??  Can you say FIAT in Italy?  And no…. Chrysler is not doing that well.

    Just thinking about this… why didn’t AMC get a bail-out in the Carter years?  Studebaker?  Hudson?

    BECAUSE IT’s A STUPID IDEA!

  • Scooter

     Ten thousand rounds??

    In my Native American childhood out on the Res, you are what we would call Vegetarian.    8-)

  • Think Again

    I’m a keen observer of the Human Condition.

    I know a buffoon when I see one.

  • Think Again

    Chrysleris alive, prosperous,a ctually. Ask around. Thanks to this bailout–its second in 30 years.  Taxpayers are not out one dime.

    The Studebaker questionis a good one.  Maybe they didn’t ask?

  • Think Again

    Well…sometimes you’re right, and on that one, you’re right.

  • Think Again

    Exact citations and dates, please.

    I’ll be waiting right here.

    (Forever) (Because it didn’t happen)

  • Think Again

    ROFLMAO

  • Think Again

    Cybnic?  Yeah. Iconoclast?  To be an iconoclast, you have to be right a good deal of the time.

  • Think Again

    You guys are funny.  I don’t even know what Lake City, Speer and surplus ball ammo are.  But I can imagine, and it’s funny.

  • Rico

    You should spend a little more time observing your own condition–pathologically, self-deluded asshole!!

  • Rico

    …yet pseudo-journalist Matt Tully didn’t report it until AFTER the election.

  • The Dupper

     He would have been 80-86 yrs old during his term, dude. THINK ABOUT IT… think of all the folks you know that age.  Its a medical fact that mental acuity drops rapidly at this point in life.  If Lugar would have had the best thing for IN and USA in mind, he would have found and endorsed a successor of his choosing a year ago.
    He should have.
    He didn’t because of hubris.
    2015 Dick Lugar is not 1985 Dick Lugar, and folks like you need to realize and acknowledge that fact.  There is plenty of room for folks like him in the party, but it was irresponsible of him to run again.  Hell, he might not even be able to drive himself anywhere in a couple of years, much less consider the intricacies of international treaties that supersede US law.

  • Bemused

    But I’m fixed with a reloading press.  You’re right though, its only a start!

  • Scooter

    Kinda like my cat in front of a mirror…. little guy entertains himself for hours.

  • Scooter

    The taxpayer’s out a wad and a half, you jack hole. 

  • Scooter

    Tully is one of the reason’s the Star is going down the tubes…. 

  • Scooter

    TA, if operational synapses & neurons were gunpowder, you couldn’t blow your nose.

  • Scooter

    The line for some hand-loaded JHP’s starts right here.

  • Turk182

    Gridlock!………..  Where was the  compromise from the Democrats when they voted for Obamacare?…

    Where was the compromise from the Democrats when they voted for the stimulis package?
    Compromise only comes from Republicans!!!

    Even Bill Clinton called Obama an amatuer in his book.
    Compromise is an art, Democrats and Republicans have compromised for years and years.
    The New communist and socialist don’t understand the word compromise, and people are standing up to them, their not going down without a fight, and that’s were we are in Washington these day.
    For this stand, again I bring up Alinsky’s rules for radicals, that is their play book for their agenda.
    Folks, America is on the verge of civil war!
    this time it will be for Social change, not race.
    Am I the only one here scared to death, that blood will be spilled in the streets of America?
    The Extreme radical muslims are waiting patiently, on the sidelines.
    Communist are gearing up with propaganda, and ideology.
    The war drums are pounding, Top down, with Obama and his Socialist agendas.
    Bottom up, with Black Panthers, Van Jones, Al Sharpen.
    And inside out with the press and the head in the sand Democrats, thinking this is just another election.

    The Occupy folks are gearing up for violence, just last week a plot was foiled to blow up a bridge in Ohio.
    The Occupy are gearing up to protest at the NATO conference.
    The Occupy are gearing up to use squatting rights to challenge
    the law.
    The Zimmerman case is a powder keg, if he is found innocent of the charges, the Rodney King riots was a cake walk.
    rioting throughout the country will occur.
    The economy the USA is almost at 17 trillion dollars, going higher each day.
    Bankers are still greedy, insurance companies aren’t doing much better!
    Congress stands impudent!
    Morality is getting  close to the Roman Empire.
    Energy Companies hands are being tied more and more everyday, by US Government officials, causing more debt, this is all in the name of greed and profit.
    In the last 6 months religion is being challenged by the Federal Government on many fronts.
    School children are being taught America is bad, and needs a change, but they are not told of the change, only capitalism is bad, an sharing the wealth is the only way to go.
    So with all my ranting here this morning, these are the reasons I’m scared, in the future, we might not have the right to differ our opinions in such blogs, go to meetings and give our differences.
    Vote for the candidate who shares our views!
    Sorry for the rant folks there are many good people who blog in here and I’m so so worried our rights will be coming to an end!
    I’m sure I will be labeled as a Kook, out of my mind, I care for each and everyone one of you as americans, and the ability of each and everyone of us to debate the issues!

  • Scooter

    TA, please take an afternoon & study…http://thomas.loc.gov/home/thomas.php

    as well as;

    http://treaties.un.org/Home.aspx?lang=en

     

  • Think Again

    That’s actually kinda funny.

  • Think Again

    Not even.

  • Think Again

    I couldn’t agree more.  Ditto Kevin Rader at Ch. 13.  He was there, too.

  • Think Again

    You can click-and-drag.  Good for you!

    Need some reading material yourself?  How about the Federalist Papers, or any other Madison tomes?  And some of Jefferson’s and Franklin’s writing, too.  It’d do you good.

    Or not…

  • Scooter

     So what does that person in the mirror say to you, TA?

  • Scooter

     Actually, it was ‘COPY’ and ‘PASTE’.

    Liberals have knowledge of the Federalist Papers?  Liberals have read the Federalist Papers?

    To bad liberals can’t COMPREHEND the Federalist Papers.

    Happy Mother’s Day, TA.

  • Scooter

     Nah Turk182…. a lot of others feel the same way.  Those are the ones that place value on the Constitution & the Bill of Rights, the Pledge of Allegiance & the American Flag.

    By a lot of others, I mean everyone who has taken the Oath of Enlistment and served Honorably.

    A liberal can’t understand that… they just ride the coat-tails of the honorable ones.

  • Think Again

    He says to visit my mother today, and to honor her always.

  • Pascal

    So, noticed that Florida has found, by cross checking driver’s license vs voter records, some 180,000 illegals who seem like they think they should be voting.  I suppose Indiana illegals also have “rights” to drive and “vote” if they are of TA’s persuasion.  Does Indiana have the ability to cross check these two data bases and do the obvious thing?  Florida has sent the names of but 2,600 for “investigation” being as how they are leery of presidential election foul ups….

  • http://mariahcareymusic.us/song/Emotions/5792750 Mariah Carey Emotions

    The Washington Post examination of the reasons for Lugar’s defeat does not lay it all at the Tea Party’s door, arguing that other reasons played a role, including his age