Home

Join

Main Menu



blog advertising is good for you

Links

Monday Morning Mayoral Musings

Although 2010 is a few days away, it never hurts to take a sneak peak at 2011 and the Indianapolis Mayor’s race. Here’s what I’ve heard so far.

Brian Williams has put together what could be considered the first political ad of the season.

Melina Kennedy is touting another Union endorsement, that makes two if you’re counting.

Expect a formal announcement soon from Jose Evans on his candidacy.

I hear former Lt. Governor and Indianapolis City Controller Kathy Davis may be getting in the race.

Contrary to some wishful thinking,  7th District Congressman Andre Carson is NOT endorsing any Mayoral candidates anytime soon.

Someone out there is polling for Mayor on the Democratic side.  Not sure who it is, but I’ll find out.  The results should be interesting.

And speaking of polling, incumbent Greg Ballard is polling about 50-percent in the African-American community, a key constituency for Democrats.

  • Think Again

    Wow. You're all over the political landscape with this one. A couple of reality checks:

    If Jose Evans gets into this, it truly is wide-open. But he can't really win.

    Melina's AFSCME Indy Parks endorsement is not a surprise. That's a relatively small union, but powerful. And the parks department is a complete mess under Lowry…he's incompetent and his underlings all kiss his ring daily.

    Brian is a solid candidate, and he'll have money. But he'll also have baggage…some of his income is from sources that aren't so Democratic. Not a fatal flaw, but hardly a winning formula, either.

    But, your observation that Ballard is at or above 50% with the A-A community is laughable. Who did that poll? Fifteen percent tops. And as long as Olgen Williams stays on the 25th floor, it'll never get very high. Ask your good friend Mr. Turner.

  • Indiana_Barrister

    TA,

    I always enjoy you being my first comment of the day. I still stand by everything I write. What do you think about Kathy Davis possibly getting in. I hear she' may be getting support from Frank Anderson, who reportedly hates Melina by the way.

  • Think Again

    From your lips to Rico's ear. LOL.

    Seriously, who Frank hates is moot. Not many people in the party like Frank. He's acted like a baby over the IMPD thing. He wasted a lot of good will…a former US marshal with strong credentials. His conduct in the last four years has been embarrassing. There aren't many precinct folks who care much for him…they don't want to see folks piling, on, but they're not in love with him any more.

    Well, except for Amos's hangers-on.

    Kathy is brilliant. An MIT-trained scientist who likes government. Frankly, we need more folks like her in public service. She was an excellent budget director under Peterson, and a good LG. I often joke that we traded Kathy Davis for our current lite gov, and got the worst end of that bargain, by a country mile.

    If Kathy puts good people around her, she can do well. But getting the slating nod, and nomination, will be a gutter fight if Melina is still in it. Melina is a good street fighter. Brian could syphon some votes, and they'd be mostly Melina, I'd think.

    It's early, but trust me–Andre will not stay neutral. And his support will mean a lot.

  • joneaster

    Actually, it's three for Melina, Abdul.
    LIUNA, Insulators Union, AFSCME (Indy Parks)

    As far as Ballard polling 50 percent in the African-American community, please cite the poll, what questions were asked, and who did it.

  • pogden297

    TA,

    I agree – Ballard polling at 50% among A-As is laughable. This is probably another one of those Ballard internal polls, not for public disseminationi, that are designed for nothing more than to try to discourage opponents. It's an old political game.

    I actually think Ballard is polling better with A-As than most Republican candidates, but I'd say it is no better than 25% and would be maybe 20% on election day. A-As are about the only constituency that Ballard has not ticked off. Give him time though.

  • Think Again

    No Republican mayor ever polled over 30% in the A-A community…not even Goldsmith when he was butt-kissing everywhere.

    As far as I can tell, the minority community wants to like Ballard, but he keeps appointed goofs to key positions.

    Andre's support, in the end, will mean everything. He has his own re-election to get through in 2010, but at 6:02 PM on Election Day 2010, the ducks will start lining up in a row. If it's possible for the field to self-govern, and thin the herd, that's all the better, so Andre's endorsement will mean even more.

    I like all the candidates mentioned by Abdul. Each one would be better asleep than Ballard is at full tilt.

    Such a wasted opportunity for Ballard. He owed no one. Not a damned soul. The first mayor in—well, ever–who was elected without IOUs all over hell's half acre.

  • http://twitter.com/IndyStudent Matthew Stone

    Seriously, that was his campaign web site?

    I'm all for basic websites without a bunch of flash and crap like that, but there's misaligned images, broken links, it looks like a 6th grader designed it.

    Someone slip Ballard my number. I'll give him a good deal. Considering his two Youtube channels out there haven't been used since the campaign, I don't think I'll have to work too hard to exceed expectations.

  • http://twitter.com/IndyStudent Matthew Stone

    I'm going to echo TA's and Paul's concerns on the poll. You can't cite poll statistics and then not give the poll. You might as well just make it up if you're going to do that.

  • Taxpayer 834512

    Speaking of IOU's all over hell's half acre- that sounds like what we'll get again with any candidate coming out of our downtown law firms. I don't think I'm the only one fed-up with the incestuous nonsense we get from the CIB crew or blatant pandering like slipping Wishard into the last assembly session at the last minute. With genuine respect to people served by a new hospital that might, might really be deserving of construction- THAT was the utmost consideration by (Crawford and Kenley?) on that late night? Why do I have these mysterious doubts? This referendum couldn't have been more openly debated in the light of day with other issues? Apparently not.

    I'm not grinning from ear to ear on everything regarding Mayor Ballard. I do think the budget process is more open, the streets a tad safer, and do not want take a step backwards on extraneous influence trumping taxpayers. My guess is that's a tall order in this city.

    You got somebody better that makes this cut? Great! Please! Who is it?

  • Iknownothing

    I think you are looking at a city who is on the verge of financial collapse – and that will be the #1 issue Indy Voters will face in 2011. Melina was a big part of that mess under Peterson (you cannot have it both ways, dear) and she does not have any personal business experience either. Her Economic Development record that she touts needs to be investigated (was it just Lily handouts, etc.?) So the City, while the “D” establishment is *somewhat lining up for Melina, will need to take a look at who can best take on Ballard. But most importantly, who has a plan to fix this mess? Right now, Brian Williams is the only one with “position papers” on many of the critical issues facing the City. Kathy would be an excellent candidate in that light as well, with the smarts and experience to put together a plan to fix this mess. Jose is just plain too young, and has the Aaron Haith crew backing him up (road to nowhere), while everyone else has packed bags and headed home. I still can't figure out what Joe Hogsett has up his sleeves but in may have something to do with Johnathon Weizapfel (sp?) and the governor's race.

    My point with this is if the Ds are at all serious about beating Ballard in the November election, they better have someone with a business background and no strings to the Baker Daniels/CiB/Library/Airport/Luke messes that are going to be VERY easy for people to still be angry about. That points to Brian and Kathy. Not Melina, and not Jose.

    Ballard's big issue is going to be his personal incompetence. While you can continue to blame alot of the “mess” on Peterson, what has he done in his term to fix those messes? DPW appears to have taken low bid on every single project (quality control anyone?) and he's RFI'ing about every green space we have left here. He's got serious issues with the FOP and Firemen heating up very quickly, and i am not sure where you got that 50-50 AA poll Abdul but you have some mighty good stuff in your pipe if you believe that. Mayor ballard has a two prong solution to every problem in the City:

    1. Call Bob Grand
    2. Put out an RFI

    Carl Brizzi vs. Terry Curry is the race to watch in 2010.

  • Indiana_Barrister

    No offense gentlemen, but I stand by what I wrote. You don't like it, that's not my problem.

  • urbandelight

    Melina has too much mess for the Democratic Party to take a risk at endorsing her to run against Mayor Ballard. Brian knows how to raise money and he has connection within both parties. As we get closer to the election, watch how much mess will come out about Melina. This is going to get ugly.

  • Think Again

    Wow, I knownothing knows a little, but evidently not much.

    This is a Democratic town now. The only way you ebat the Dems is for their natural coalition to stay home or fuss amogn themselves. Or have a sterling candidate, ala Daniels, to buck the trend.

    Ballard is not that candidate. Now or ever.

    All the above-mentioend Dem candidates could and would beat Ballard. At no time has or does Ballard enjoy anything close to 50% approval rating among minorities. That's someone's pipe dream. But it is fun to speculate, two years out.

    The city's on the verge of financial collapse huh? Interesting observation. Be sure to let Moody's and S&P know. They must be clueless.

  • Indiana_Barrister

    I would say Indianapolis is an independent-Democratic town. How else would you explain, Mitch and Brizzi?

  • melyssa

    In Ballard's words, this is why he ran for mayor. It is posted today over at Advance Indiana website:

    “I really felt like the city was, uh, going in the wrong direction, and I just thought we could do a better job than what we were doing. That's really pretty much it. I, uh, do this not for me. I'm very candid about this. I spent 23 years in the Marine Corps. This is strictly public service to me. That's all it is. There is no ego in this for me. I'm just trying to do the right thing here for the city. I thought we could do a little bit better. I thought spending was out of control. I thought crime was up. That sort of thing. I thought we can do better. I think so far that's proven to be true. Spending is under control, crime is down and that sort of thing. I decided that. It's a strange set of circumstances when I did that. It was in the spring of 2007. I had just a couple of people asking me you need to look at that–look at running for mayor. I had something else in mind. I knew I was going to do public service again after the Marine Corps. My kids were growing up. It's time to go do something and the opportunity arose after a strange set of circumstances in the spring of 2007, that I won't necessarily go into–it might take 10 minutes to go through all of that but through a set of circumstances I was able to get the nomination and win the election.”

  • melyssa

    In Ballard's words, this is why he ran for mayor. It is posted today over at Advance Indiana website:

    “I really felt like the city was, uh, going in the wrong direction, and I just thought we could do a better job than what we were doing. That's really pretty much it. I, uh, do this not for me. I'm very candid about this. I spent 23 years in the Marine Corps. This is strictly public service to me. That's all it is. There is no ego in this for me. I'm just trying to do the right thing here for the city. I thought we could do a little bit better. I thought spending was out of control. I thought crime was up. That sort of thing. I thought we can do better. I think so far that's proven to be true. Spending is under control, crime is down and that sort of thing. I decided that. It's a strange set of circumstances when I did that. It was in the spring of 2007. I had just a couple of people asking me you need to look at that–look at running for mayor. I had something else in mind. I knew I was going to do public service again after the Marine Corps. My kids were growing up. It's time to go do something and the opportunity arose after a strange set of circumstances in the spring of 2007, that I won't necessarily go into–it might take 10 minutes to go through all of that but through a set of circumstances I was able to get the nomination and win the election.”

  • melyssa

    Regarding safety, I don't feel safer. I don't think what he says is true about crimes that are not thug on thug crimes. Sure the criminal element might be murdering each other less often, but I don't think crime against law abiding citizens is down. I just got another email warning about theives kicking in doors throughout my neighborhood in Meridian Kessler. Evidently it is all over the city too. Check out this WRTV story:

    Members of a southwest side Indianapolis community are arming themselves with knowledge after an elderly man was beaten and robbed in his home.

    Three armed robbers kicked in the front door of a home in the Sungate subdivision on Nov. 8, 6News' Tanya Spencer reported.

    While the elderly victim recovers from his injuries at a hospital, his neighbors gathered on Saturday for a lesson in home security.

    “(The house that was robbed) is at the end of the street, so we are very close to that, and we were very scared,” one neighbor said.

    A representative from ADT Security Services attended Saturday's meeting. He said criminals look for fast, easy opportunities, so anything that could add time or trouble for them, like a security system, may be enough to keep thieves away.

    “The ones that had been on the fence previously about considering home security, with the recent turn in the economy and the desperate actions that people are doing, that seems to have pushed them from a 'want to,' to a 'have to,'” said Mike Pecar.

    A sales associate with Lowe's also talked with homeowners about home-protection options, from a dummy camera that looks like the real thing, to motion-sensing lights and bars to secure doors.

    “About spring, we started noticing a lot of single, elderly customers who have been targeted, or who have friends that were targeted,” said sales specialist Carolyn Thielke.

    She suggests women who live alone put a cheap pair of men's work boots on their porch or patio to give the illusion that someone else lives there.

    Neighbors left the meeting ready to make some changes to their homes.

    “I don't know that I necessarily feel safer. I do feel more empowered,” said Jami Young. “I'm going to do everything I can to make sure me and my kids are safe.”

  • melyssa

    Oh…and I forgot to mention for all this improved safety I spend 10 times more on property tax than when I bought my home in 1998. And my income tax is higher too. I'm not getting improved services for a huge increase in my taxation.

  • http://twitter.com/IndyStudent Matthew Stone

    Abdul, we aren't questioning you. As a journalist, I understand that some sources you have to keep confidential. But I've never heard of someone citing an anonymous poll. Gallup? Marion County GOP? Some PAC?

    Personally, poll numbers are absolutely meaningless if you don't know where they came from. And I wonder why'd you bother to report it but not disclose who conducted the poll.

  • Iknownothing

    Hey Mr. Think Again:

    I do not disagree that this is a D town, and I acknowledge that always. However, my point about Melina is I believe that while she has a good base of fervent and loyal and $$$ people behind her, I don't think she plays well outside her Meridian St corridor. Folks in Warren and Pike – IMHO – won't buy into her “I was everything ggod from Peterson, but none of the bad” positioning. In short, Melina is the easiest candidate for Ballard. They would love nothing more than to have a face off with Melina. Brian or Kathy do not bring that baggage (Big deal Brian had some business dealings with Brizzis pal) and therefor can position themselves as outside that “mess” mentioned before.

    And yes, the City is on the verge of financial collapse: All I need to do is look at the school system, the public works, the deplorable infrastructure, the parks, the jobs and benefits cuts to all the city and county employees (including the cops and fire), and oh yeah all that crime. Give me a break. Mess is the only term I can rightly use here…

    Brian Crist will get US Attorney.

  • Think Again

    Well financial collapse is a relative term, I guess. And it just got a new, albeit unofficial, definition.

    The take you have on Melina's strengths, or lack thereof, is very interesting. It'll still be a fight for Andre's endorsement. For a clue on what that might be, follow Wilson's lead.

    Good to see you, Melyssa.

  • Fact Checker

    Ballard's support with the AA community will be less than 10%…the usual for a republican in this city. Hudnut was an exception. Brian Williams has not distinguished himself yet and time is running out. He has sent out confusing and poorly done letters. His YOUTUBE spots have been uninspired and downright boring…..he is as exciting as his former boss, Democrat turned Republican Evan Bayh.

  • Iknownothing

    TA: My point in calling it financial collapse is this city used be livable. NOW? Drive down any street and tell me its gotten better than 10 years ago. I was a big Bart supporter but with all the BS that has come to light over the last couple years, I'm not so sure all was good and moral. Take a look at the H20 Company…

    Here's a thought, follow along: Try to find a hard working candidate with re$ources (Melina) with business experience that can appeal to R's (Brian) and political and beaurocratic experience (Kathy) and might as well make them a fresh faced well liked minority (Jose) and you have a slam dunk candidate against Ballard…but that is not what we have or will have as D's. We have fracturing occurring already, based on petty alliances and IOUs. Everybody wants something out of this deal, and I am here to tell you there isn't going to be any gravy to take off the top of City Hall for a LONG time. Besides the CSO project (which is already handed out if memory serves) and streets and sidewalks, the city isn't going to build or rebuild anything of significance (or big and shiny) for years, so what is going to motivate the Business, A&E and Development Communities to fund a D? Is any big firm going to risk pissing off the Ballards in hopes we D's can beat him? What if it doesn't work? Do you want to explain to your bosses why you sent a check to Melina/Brian/Jose/Kathy/whoever and it went down in flames? You won't build as much as a crosswalk for the City.

    Terry Curry is a prime example of that problem. He is an overly qualified candidate who would be a great foe for Carl, but he just can't find any money. Look at Melina's money for Prosecutor last round, its filled with Bart money, all those guys and gals who got fat off the Luke, Library, and Airport. Are they going to risk giving money to a non-incumbent who was “part of the problem last time” and has nothing to hand out if in fact elected? I digress on the Prosecutor part here but I hope you can see my point.

    The next Mayor is going to have a terribly tough job doing things like creating decent jobs, keeping Lily here, fixing the streets and sidewalks, keeping the Pacers here, funding the CIB mess, fixing the deplorable public schools, keeping the Cops and Firemen paid and happy, dealing with an overburdened courts system, dealing with crime and Meth and Crack and the list goes on and on and on…..The challenges are incredibly significant. The financial backbone of this city needs to be strengthened and I haven't got a clue how this is going to get done. Go look at Kokomo and you will get an idea what is in store for us – chain stores, uneducated people, failiing industry and an unhealthy lifestyle of burgers, traffic lights and video rentals.

    Its pretty damn depressing from what I see, so I'll stop now. I'd really like to see what some of the candidates plan to do to fix “the Mess”…

  • wilson46201

    that amusing poll you're reporting was probably taken only of the African-Americans who work on the 25th floor of the CC Bldg.

  • urbandelight

    Mark my word, Brian Williams will be the leading candidate by May, 2010. The baggage Melina has will be exposed by then. Lets be honest, she lost to Carl Brizzi, she is supported by the ghetto mafia, and Peterson “her former boss” lost to Ballard. She is toast!!!

  • pogden297

    Nah, Republicans county-wide have traditionally done better than 10% with AFrican Americans at the polls. The top candidates like Hudnut get 30%. The Rs who do poorly with blacks get at least 10% and probably closer to 15%.

    The fact is Indianapolis has a lot of middle-class, professional blacks. They don't vote lock step Democrat like those poorer African-Americans who live in Center Township. They vote heavily Democrat but not at rates of 90-10.

  • pogden297

    TA,

    I'll endorse 100% the last paragraph. However, the notion that Andre Carson would be influential in endorsing someone in a general election is far-fetched. In a Democratic Party primary, yes he would have pull, but nobody cares about general election endorsements, where elected officials endorse someone in their own party. They have about as much effect as a newspaper endorsement – actually probably less.

  • pogden297

    You said:

    “Is any big firm going to risk pissing off the Ballards in hopes we D's “an beat him?”

    Are you kidding me? The Ds will be heavily favor to win the Mayor's Office in 2011. Why wouldn't a firm invest in that opportunity, indeed likelihood, that they will be investing in a winner?

  • wilson46201

    A pro-forma paper endorsement indeed means little. It's the “goodies” that can come with a serious endorsement that count: help in fund-raising, organizational support with volunteers, campaign advise, personal appearances, etc.

  • Iknownothing

    And anybody who thought Ballard could beat Bart was labeled nuts too. Its politics, anything can happen.

  • pogden297

    The problem with that logic is that Marion County is a fairly heavy Democratic county. It's not a Republican county. Even if Ballard were popular, which clearly he is not, winning re-election would at best be an uphill battle. The nominated D candidate, assuming Ballard wins the R primary, would be a huge favorite over Ballard.

  • IndyErnie

    Abdul why not put a panel together. Get the questions from TA, Paul, and a couple other “informed” insiders, hell even Wilson can contribute.
    The poll can be ran from your radio studio with ten day reports from both parties. Random calls equal D's and R's.
    I believe Ballard has more support than the other commenter s here.
    Lets fine out what Indy thinks.
    I'll volunteer to make some of the calls.

  • Iknownothing

    So then how did Ballard win last time? Duh.

    (disclaimer – I think ballard is a complete idiot and will do more long term damage for this city than anyone else has)

  • http://twitter.com/IndyStudent Matthew Stone

    Ernie, even though none of us (Even collectively) could pull off an accurate poll like Gallup could, I do like your idea. We'd know exactly where the numbers came from.

  • http://twitter.com/IndyStudent Matthew Stone

    Ernie, even though none of us (Even collectively) could pull off an accurate poll like Gallup could, I do like your idea. We'd know exactly where the numbers came from.

  • http://twitter.com/IndyStudent Matthew Stone

    Because there was a massive amount of anger over taxes. Mostly property taxes, which are managed by the state, but Peterson also raised a number of city taxes including a temporary (now permanent due to Ballard) increase in COIT.

    I'd personally argue there was also just a lot of anti-Peterson sentiment out there. I personally despised his administration and was very eager to vote “against” Peterson.

  • Iknownothing

    That makes no sense.

  • http://twitter.com/IndyStudent Matthew Stone

    What was so confusing? Peterson raised taxes, state wide there was anti-tax protests, and it was taken out on incumbants.

  • Rico

    You're either a complete idiot, or you haven't been paying attention. Evan Bayh was a moderate Democrat (at best) as our governor and sold his soul and became more liberal when he went national. He's only moving to the right now because of the election next year. What facts do you really check? Maybe you should check the dosage on your meds.

  • Rico

    ….that wasn't for you, Paul.

  • Fact Checker

    Rico, most sane people quit paying attention to your drivel a long time ago..

  • Think Again

    I understand your frustration, Ernie. If I'd actively supported Ballard from the get-go like you did, I'd be livid right now. He has squandered a solid opportunity, and he won't get the chance back.

    Facts cannot be ignored. The baseline D vote in this county last fall was 58-60%. In an off-year it'll drop proportionately, but it will still be above 55%. If the Dems can nominate a candidate with little bloodshed, they'll win…any of the mentioned crowd can beat Ballard.

    The real interesting race will be for council control. Republicans have succeeded in recruiting some attractive candidates. It'll be razor-thin, whoever wins that battle.

    Iknownothing: you just don't get it. Your rants against the Peterson money machine are instructive, but in local politics, it's ancient history.

    Bart is, uh, working at Lilly's now. No coattails, whether that's good or bad.

  • Iknownothing

    What REALLY happened in the Peterson Administration has a whole lot to do with the leading (for now Melina) candidate's viability. You think Ballard's Boys aren't going to bring up all of that? Well then it will just be a walk in the park then I am sooooo sorry for even implying Bart has anything to do with the next election. My bad. :rollseyes:

  • John Doe

    Meliar for mayor!!!

    I don't care which Democrat wins, I just hope the Democrats sweep the mayor's office _and_ the council. Regional taxes will likely be less likely to pass if the money is going to go from Republican/Conservative suburban counties to a Socialist People's Republic.

    Another benefit…the return of IndyUndercover!! ;)

  • John Doe

    Meliar for mayor!!!

    I don't care which Democrat wins, I just hope the Democrats sweep the mayor's office _and_ the council. Regional taxes will likely be less likely to pass if the money is going to go from Republican/Conservative suburban counties to a Socialist People's Republic.

    Another benefit…the return of IndyUndercover!! ;)

  • guest

    Kathy Davis is not getting in the race. You got bad info.

  • IndyRacer57

    Ballard will be re-elected. Case closed!!

  • IndyRacer57

    Ballard will be re-elected. Case closed!!

  • http://www.outdoorstringlightsexclusive.com Outdoor String Lights

    This is cool! And so interested! Are u have more posts like this? Please tell me, thanks