If You Can’t Beat Them…
Advance Indiana is demanding I disclose the details of some annoying e-mail I received regarding how I should cover future taxpayer revolts.
I took me about a micro-second to figure out how to deal with this. Ignore it. I mean if I’m a such a fraud and charlatan, then why would Advance Indiana spend so much time obsessing over what I do? Who spends a lot of time on someone who apparently doesn’t matter, right?
There must be something else going on. It could be because I’m black. After all Advance Indiana’s favorite targets tend to be black men: Barack Obama, Andre Carson and now the new guy who runs the airport, so it’s just the cost of doing business.
Oh well, time to head to the Statehouse and continue to be the legitimate, well-respected media guy that I am; jealousy is such an ugly thing.
By the way, I hear the city has reached a settlement over the use of polygraphs in the police department which may clear the way for their use in weeding out corruption. Just thought you should know. There’s that darn legitimate media guy again.
March 30th, 2009 at 10:13 am
Abdul? Did you just play the race card? Or was that remark a satirical dud?
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Why aren’t you ignoring Gary? You said you are, but then proceeded to create a blog entry about his request for the proof and IP address.
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For God’s sake! Offer up the alleged email and IP address or move on. You have no credibility without proof, Abdul!
March 30th, 2009 at 10:15 am
I’m not the one with the credibility issue.
March 30th, 2009 at 10:22 am
Abdul, I’m questioning your credibility. You tie an email to our event. You said such email is threatening. And then you wont forward said email to the event’s producers so that we can figure out who wrote it and know it is for real and not something made up.
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That’s not cool. And it certainly doesn’t make your claim look legit.
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Show us the proof.
March 30th, 2009 at 10:26 am
Thanks for the IP address Abdul, but I asked to see the whole email WITH the IP
March 30th, 2009 at 10:52 am
Abdul,
Why do you bother with these people? They’re batshit crazy!!! They put out thousands of flyers and only 200 people show up? That’s pathetic. I heard David Long on your show say the State was going forward with helping the Colts and Pacers anyway. These guys are a bunch of losers.
Welsh is the biggest loser and I think Gary hates you because his boyfriend broke up with him so now he hates all men.
You picked some real winners their for enemies.
March 30th, 2009 at 11:06 am
As an attorney, Abdul, you should know that polygraphs are about as useful as dowsing rods.
There’s a reason they’re inadmissible in court: they don’t work.
It’s not within the realm of possibility that the “use of polygraphs” will “weed out corruption” in the police force — or anywhere else. It’s just part of the “smoke and mirrors” school of governance that gave us the TSA.
March 30th, 2009 at 11:12 am
The race card? Seriously? I had so much respect for you Abdul.
March 30th, 2009 at 11:12 am
Way to play the race card, Abdul. Classy! Your hero Barry couldn’t have played it better.
March 30th, 2009 at 11:23 am
After having to deal with marked cards from a stacked deck by crooked white-supremacist dealers for many years, it’s rather ironic nowadays to hear some folk suddenly start hollering against “playing the race card” !
March 30th, 2009 at 11:29 am
Actually over 300 people showed up. And considering it is during a weekday, that’s really good attendance.
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Our event drew more participation than the governor’s Property Tax Reform Alliance held one week earlier. Emails and phone calls to get that rally going came directly from the governor’s office. I know because people who got those emails leaked them to me. I was at that Reform Alliance event and attendance was about 150 and filled only the rotunda.
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March 30th, 2009 at 11:39 am
With our historical definitions of country, government, and common sense in turmoil- local political bloggers duke it out. Nobody appointed me Soloman, but I wish everybody would chill as we’ve got a lot more at stake than this foolishness.
March 30th, 2009 at 11:41 am
Please. Thank you.
March 30th, 2009 at 11:45 am
It seems as though this blog is as good a place as any to distort the message of concerned citizens and to attack those who support their efforts.
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And to the “batshit crazy” dude, please don’t think that we don’t understand the use of your tools to manipulate underinformed readers. It’s another common tactic, associated with other techniques to discredit groups and individuals. You seem to have an understanding of how this works. Have you also been sending anonymous emails to Abdul?
March 30th, 2009 at 11:48 am
regarding polygraphs. i took several of them durring my time on the department. they are a wast of time. the 2 narc detectives that were arrested last year passed them. the 2 detectives that they replaced, suposedly “failed” them. those 2 officers have been in litigation with the city for the last 4 or 5 years. their federal trial against the city starts tuesday. guess how much it’s gonna costs the taxpayers when the city looses. the city has already made a couple rediculous offers that were turned down because they know they were in the wrong.
point is polygraphs are useless. liers pass and good officers fail. especially when their superiors wish them to. oh year. spears, foley, and myers were the men who is gonna cost us when this goes to trial. but the biggest jerk is swarm. unfortunately this has never or will never be reported by any media.
March 30th, 2009 at 11:56 am
Remember what Abdul has always said about himself. He is an arms dealer. He deals to both sides.
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He’s obviously been pushed to do this by his friends on the other side…perhaps people like his “BEST friend”, Tom John who is the chair of the Marion County GOP and someone Ballard vowed he would get rid of elected.
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And that’s another promise Ballard made to us and broke.
March 30th, 2009 at 12:02 pm
The writer “paulodgenisanidiot” must surely believe (on some unconcious level) that his own narcissistic personality disorder allows him to call others what he himself is.
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Unfortunately, there is no cure for the poor fellow, save for the miniscule chance at self-realization (which in this case is a very poor chance indeed).
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I suppose we will just have to suffer this person’s delusional rantings (at least when he can be bothered to drag himself out of his own primordial slime, that is).
March 30th, 2009 at 12:19 pm
And Abdul, a “legitimate” media guy would produce the alleged email. This is costing you credibility points with people.
March 30th, 2009 at 12:20 pm
This is quite disturbing. Publish the letter Abdul or you have seriously put your reputation in jeopardy. The fact that you are now using the race card and also insinuating that our coalition is responsible for this letter is highly insulting and unprofessional.
March 30th, 2009 at 12:54 pm
Please—if the “race” issue is ever to be behind us as a society then it has to be consistent in that all issues do not have a race element. There is too much “ism” mentality in existence and thus may take a whole lot more funerals for society to move on.
March 30th, 2009 at 1:29 pm
lol…oh boy.
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And the Socialist in Chief is a legit target. He’s promised us change and all he’s changed is who is fraking up the country and how fast it’s being done.
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Andre Carson? At this point this must be tongue-in-cheek humor. WTF has Carson ever done to deserve that seat besides ride the coat tails of Julia? There far, far more qualified candidates for that seat but the morons in the 7th district decided to go with the flow than make rational decisions. But since you’re a reporter dig into the…ummm…problems Carson had back in his Vice days? :^) That should make for some good blogging! lol
March 30th, 2009 at 1:37 pm
Vice==excise
March 30th, 2009 at 1:40 pm
Daw-g…now don’t pick on Andre. He was on city council for a few weeks and right after that he got a director of marketing job at a large architectural firm that gets government contracts. He must be good. Heck, Andre didn’t even need an architectural or marketing background to get that job.
March 30th, 2009 at 1:52 pm
It’s a sad day when Those who report news and information decide to make Themselves the news..this applies to both Mr. Shabazz and Welsh.
I for one read when I can both your blogs to get an update on things locally I may miss otherwise, and to see you both sniping at each other is unprofessional, immature, and a waste of my time, and when you engage in such behavior, all you are doing is destroying your own credibility. It’s been getting to be a chronic situation.
You both need to park your egos at the door and continue to inform/entertain instead of acting like children.
If my opinion is harsh, Tough. ‘Bout time some Grown Folk intervened. Thanks in advance, Peace.
March 30th, 2009 at 1:59 pm
Michael…the feud between Gary and Abdul started when Abdul accused Gary of being Indy Undercover and Gary figured out that Indy Undercover was Abdul.
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Before that they were fine with each other. In regards to who really was Indy Undercover, I believe Abdul was because of all the supporting evidence that Gary gave us.
March 30th, 2009 at 2:03 pm
Not to be rude, Melyssa, but I could care less what started their feud. I understand/am aware of the history, but it still detracts from those who tune in here to get informed. If I wanted this kind of drama, I’d referee a day care center’s playground squabbles.
PS- I also appreciate the volunteerism you engage in. I did it once, myself as a candidate. Never again though, so I admire your persistence.
March 30th, 2009 at 3:11 pm
Wow. Talk about pulling out the race card. How disappointing. I have really been influenced by your posts, but now will look at them from a different perspective. I was always taught that our true character surfaces when under attack. In social behaviorial terms, it is called our “backup mode”. Abdul, your backup mode shows to be an angry black man. All well and good. It is important that we at least acknowledge it. It helps with perspective.
March 30th, 2009 at 3:22 pm
Are there any material objections to the Taxpayer Revolt agenda? What has been written above by “paulogdenisanidiot” and others are simply ad hominem remarks.
March 30th, 2009 at 4:41 pm
Okay group,
Here’s the last word. If you don’t like or trust the information you get here, the answer is simple, don’t read the blog and get your information from a source you like, trust or justifies your world view.
Our feelings will not be hurt, people come and go here all the time.
If you stay, thanks. If not, have a nice life. I’m cool either way.
I’m off for cocktails and cigars at the Columbia Club.
March 30th, 2009 at 4:53 pm
Abdul has a point: we all choose to come here.
He owns the blog. He has rarely, to my knowledge, edited anyone off the blog.
That said, Abdul: you can’t really expect to throw a stink bomb in the room and then deny anyone the source of the e-mail.
It sounds as if you sent the IP address to Melyssa. I don’t need it…I take her at her word that she got it. I don’t need to see the e-mail, either.
Asd for the tax rally, please stop saying there were 300 people. If you count all the people on all three levels of the Statehouse open-air “auditorium,” there weren’t 300. And the agenda I heard was a scatter-shot approach. I got some good from it, and heard some real silliness, too.
In hindsight, seriously, dont you wish you’d not published the threat? Is it your first?
On the subject of the tax revlot last week: Melyssa, dear Melyssa, I was there, looking down from above whilst conducting some bsiness, for maybe one-third of the rally. Please stop saying there were
March 30th, 2009 at 4:55 pm
And there you have it. Abdul just thumbed his nose at his audience after throwing out an accusation that someone involved with our event sent a threatening email, yet refusing to produce said email.
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I might give some of his show’s advertisers a call and tell them why I won’t be listening any more.
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I’ll still check in on the blog.
March 30th, 2009 at 4:57 pm
Think Again…I didn’t count people. I didn’t have time. I’m going from what two people who did count told me. We got a count of 307 and another count of 275
March 30th, 2009 at 4:59 pm
Melyssa,
You are free to do as you wish, but show me where I said someone involved in your event sent the e-mail?
March 30th, 2009 at 5:13 pm
Abdul, it was implied. Then you can’t back up your accusation with said email. You are purposely stirring up trouble for no good reason.
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Without an audience, your advertisers are going to bail. Should that happen, your contract doesn’t get renewed. However there is plenty of hack media without a standard in this town that would probably hire you.
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You’ll profit whether you act with integrity or not, huh? And that IS the bottom line for you, isn’t it?
March 30th, 2009 at 5:30 pm
So, if I think Obama, Carson, Crawford and half of the democrats on the CCC are worthless, that makes me a racists? I don’t think so.
I think they are self-serving idiots without a clue as to what the citizens need, or want.. You stepped in it this time Abdul.
March 30th, 2009 at 5:40 pm
My life has been stepping in it. I love every minute of it.
March 30th, 2009 at 5:47 pm
If you didn’t have time to count, that’s understandable. I did. I never passed 150, being generous. And I’ve counted political rally crowds for oh, 30 years or so. And regardless how amny folks there were, the message was just all over the place. Greg: I have no objection to some of the rally speeches I heard; but I do have strong objections with many. There was something for everyone there…another lesson for organizers to hone their message, because the more that are out there, the more critics you will draw.
I heard maybe five speakers, stayed maybe 30 minutes. I heard diatribes about racism, border patrol, charter schools, property taxes, zoning, income taxes, Ballard, the CIB, the Colts, Pacers, Simons…see my point?
Advertisers get those kinds of calls all the time, Melyssa. They don’t pay any attention until the numbers reach critical mass.
March 30th, 2009 at 5:53 pm
Wow Abdul. Seem you have lost some credibility. Just like the Indy undercover drubbing. Even crazy ernie pissed.
March 30th, 2009 at 7:51 pm
Abdul has become extraordinarily good at baiting his hook, or the fish have become extraordinarily hungry for something to bite on.
March 30th, 2009 at 9:44 pm
Abdul is not the type to “play the race card” wantonly. I know him and I have never heard him use “race” as an excuse for anything. I don’t know what the truth of the matter is, but I’m giving him the benefit of the doubt. There are (belive it or not) people out there who simply don’t like anyone with dark skin. Abdul may be a lot of things, but he isn’t the type to cry “Racism” unless its warranted.
March 30th, 2009 at 9:49 pm
arnie, I never stated that I was “pissed”. On the contrary I respect Abdul and he knows it.
I simply stated that someone (white) having a low opinion of a black politician didn’t necessarily make that person a racist. It isn’t any different than an African American having a low opinion of a white politician and voicing his disdain. Does that justify him being labeled a racist? No. If color were to play into the scheme of things Bush would have turned America into a country of racists.
Evidently I didn’t make my comments simple enough for you to fully comprehend.
March 30th, 2009 at 10:50 pm
There’s too much good done by Adbul, Gary, & Mel. They regularly unearth stuff we’re not going to read about in what’s left of the newspaper (if, they would have ever printed it in the first place). For the sake of the community, I hope we call it a bad day, a detente, whatever, and move on.
March 31st, 2009 at 1:56 am
I’ve said it before, and I’ll say it again: I AM INDY UNDERCOVER!!
March 31st, 2009 at 5:24 am
Buzzy, were you expecting a scene from Spartacus?
March 31st, 2009 at 6:24 am
Nice try Buzzy.
March 31st, 2009 at 8:26 am
I Don’t know–I think for awhile, many of us wanted to be I.U. You can debate it’s merits all you want, but man, was that a fun blog to read…
March 31st, 2009 at 8:34 am
In fairness to Abdul, he is far from the only blogger who does not publish such passing comments. Paul Ogden frequently references supposedly other city councilmen who supposedly fear retribution for speaking their mind, implying that Ed Coleman was no an isolated instance. Ogden refuses to publish their names.
Ogden also references “many Republicans” who are supposedly so angry at Mayor Ballard and the Marion County GOP that they want to throw the party out with the bathwater. Ogden never publishes their names.
Shall we assume, under the same argument, that Paul Ogden has no credibility because he does not publish these folks names or comments? Many mainstream GOPers equal believe Ogden is full of baloney and exaggerates these numbers.
March 31st, 2009 at 9:07 am
Melyssa:>He was on city council for a few weeks.
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lol…oh yah? Well that makes him actually less qualified than I thought before! LOL!
March 31st, 2009 at 10:13 am
They have turned against Ballard, now Abdul. Who is next?
March 31st, 2009 at 7:07 pm
erine, your comments are simple enough and nonsenical as expected.
March 31st, 2009 at 10:18 pm
arnie, next time I’ll type real sllllllllooooooooowwwww so you can keep up.
April 1st, 2009 at 7:34 am
Thanks ern. You are a compassionate guy.
April 1st, 2009 at 10:24 am
Annnnnnnnnyyyytttttttttimmmeeeeeeeeeee!
April 4th, 2009 at 4:37 pm
just one more guy here that can’t figure you out Abdul…
You’re a political platypus.