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THE FINAL 7TH DISTRICT STRETCH

We’re a little more than 24 hours away from Democrats slating their candidate for the 7th Congressional District and 48 hours from the Republicans slating theirs. There has been quite a bit of behind the scenes activity on both sides and that makes me think the slatings will either go very quickly or very slowly.

On the Republican side the party divisions seem to break along 46th Street. The folks who live above 46th Street tend to favor former Jerusalem Post editor and sometimes fill-in talk show host Tom Rose while everyone south of 46th Street is more partial to State Representative Jon Elrod. There is also talk that some of the GOP’s power base is backing Rose because he can raise the money needed to run in a special race and, ironically, he would have almost no chance at winning over voters in the 7th District with his “enthusiastic” ideological conservative views. Thereby, Democrats would not be motivated to take the seat back in November 2008, coming out in droves in Marion County, and hindering Governor Mitch Daniels chances for re-election. I am not making this up. I just tell you what I’ve been able to gather. 

On the Democratic side, my guess is their slating will either go by very quickly or Jesus will be back before they’re done. I am hearing rumblings of disgruntled precinct committeemen and candidates from all over the place, dirty tricks, intimidation, etc. It’s no big secret City-County Councilmember Andre Carson is the early favorite, however the way the power brokers have pushed Carson on the party all they’ve managed to do is get under the skin of a lot of people. It looks like coalitions are being formed to unite the opposition as candidates become eliminated from slating as the votes are tallied. If Carson can’t get more than 40 percent of the vote on the first round, we are going to be in for a long day.

By the way, the most fun match up would be Tom Rose and Andre Carson, because I can’t wait to see what happens when Rose loses it and calls Carson (who is a Muslim) an “Islamofacist” during a debate and all hell breaks loose.

Play ball!

  • http://www.blueindiana.net Vox Populi

    I personally am hoping for a long day. I want the PC’s to think hard about their choice and vote for the most qualified, most electable candidate. With so many candidates, unless some withdraw it should take a long time to cast the ballots.

  • Indy Bruiser

    Best political analysis of the situation I’ve seen so far. After the weekend is over give us your thoughts which slated candidate can win over their party faithful that felt betrayed by the process.

  • br

    Yo, the R’s caucus is on Sunday?? Were they actually dim enough to schedule this during THE COLTS PLAYOFF GAME?? Surely it won’t be in the morning while people have church.

  • Sir Hailstone

    br: It’s AFTER the Colts victory over the Chargers. It doesn’t start until 5.

    Abdul – The one interesting thing about this race – if the Dems do vote for David O and somehow we pick Tom Rose over Jon Elrod you’d have an interesting religious makeup of this election. Not That It Really Matters.

    Calypso Louie would be beside himself.

  • Rob

    I hope the Democrat precinct people realize that the Democratic power brokers are the same ones who chose the candidates and policies that caused them to lose the November election. Republican or Democrat, the district needs effective representation in Washington. The very green Andre, who’s had everything given to him, is not up to the job.

  • Wilson46201
  • say it loud

    Is Tom Rose the brother of Doug Rose?

  • Kevin

    How do you know he is not up to the job.

    I would argue that he may be up to the job but may not be experienced enough for your vote. Even if someone is green at something, they may be infinitely better at *that* something, then someone who IS experienced.

    The experience argument is old…for both republicans and democrats.

    What are the positions of each candidate. How can you show me you are an effective leader. Do you take other people’s opinions seriously or are you arrogant about such matters. Are you honest.

    This is what matters.

  • arnie

    Kevin, David O has all the preferred attributes you bring forward.

  • Bob Miller

    Tom Rose actually knows something (gasp!) about Washington DC and the wide world, and free enterprise principles. This quality is something that even the 7th District should want to see in its Representative..

  • Indy Bruiser

    Rose has the personality of a catcus and the vision of a blind mole. He is the last thing this district needs.

  • Bob Miller

    Rose can also spell cactus.

  • Indy Bruiser

    Great retort Bob. If this were a spelling bee than I’m sure your Mr. Rose might have a chance. But a representative in Congress needs to have the ability to connect with his/her constituents. Rose does not possess that ability. I interacted with him while he was at the City-County Building. Not a pleasant person.

  • Bob Miller

    There are two parties (at least) to every interaction.

  • Indy Bruiser

    Not with the former Goldsmith administration.

  • BigRic

    I’m supporting Rep. Elrod Sunday evening. Still have not received a call from Rose and am disappointed with his effort already there. Elrod will get the grassroots going, and does a great job relating to all kinds of different people, although Rose has the money flowing. But money ain’t gonna win this district. If anything, it’s going to be pounding the pavement. We’ve tried money countless times, and the last 40 years it has been proven it doesn’t work that way in the 7th.

    The only shot Rose has is if at the slate the voters take into account that he is Jewish and if they see the possibility of him pulling votes from the JCC neighborhood…

  • Jerry

    I would love to see the Dems debacle this Saturday at their slating. Apparently they have to vote eight times. Each time, the person getting the least amount of votes drop off the next ballot. Then, the machines take approximately 30 minutes to reset. With Beth White running the show, I’m assuming they will be there over 12 hours!

  • Fuzzy Curmudgeon

    I have it on good authority that Rose hasn’t got a chance among Northside Jews. He’s a jerk, to put it bluntly.

  • max

    No Jerry the Dems do not have to vote 8 times. Quite being such a loser and read about it, it has been discussed on the blogs over and over and over.

  • arnie

    Thanks max. You have saved me typing time.

  • http://bigdawgtales.blogspot.com/ Big Dawg

    I personally think Representitive Orentlicher would be a great choice. I have worked with him on a few issues when I still lived in the district. Give him a good hard look he is a good man.

    Peace

  • indyernie

    “No Jerry the Dems do not have to vote 8 times”

    I thought that was a prerequisite to join the party…vote until you drop.Get up, go to another precinct and vote again. The D’s have trained for a long voting day.

  • anonymous

    I can’t wait until March 11 so I can ask for a democrat ballot and have some fun!

  • Wilson46201

    You silly fool: you posted the same dumb comment last night on AdvanceIndiana and got smacked down several times for your ignorance.

    This is NOT a primary: there is only ONE ballot which’ll have the names of the party nominees.

    The only fun will be the poll workers laughing at the weirdo demanding a “democrat ballot” on March 11th !

  • anonymous

    You are an extremely rude person, Wilson. And that Andre allows you to represent him clearly indicates that he has no clue and no right to be elected to any office.

  • garry moore

    do we really want andre carson who has zero experience? maybe later, but not now

  • http://www.blueindiana.net Vox Populi

    I’m a Democrat who loved Julia Carson. But I absolutely do not support Andre Carson for the position at this time. I want him to gain experience on the City County Council and then consider running when he’s a little older, wiser and more experienced.

    If my brothers and sisters nominate him tomorrow, my party leadership will show it has not learned from the mistakes of the past and we deserve to lose.

  • Realist

    No offense, but Andre will never be wise enough for this job. He’s extremely lucky he made it onto the Excise Police, which isn’t saying much. He’s a really nice, honorably guy, but I’d estimate his IQ at about 85 to 90.

  • commonsense

    #28: Realist
    Sometimes an IQ will make you dumb.
    My understanding is that Andre did very good at the academy and in fact was considered a leader of his unit.
    Sometimes commonsense will get you by in life when the brains were passed out.

  • anonymous

    Well Julia was worried about this simple child, Andre. God bless her, but he does not have the mental sharpness for Washington.

  • Wilson46201

    Strangely, André Carson is widely considered as the front-runner for election to Congress while the anonymous nobodies here chatter away endlessly behind false faces, achieving little…

  • http://www.blueindiana.net Vox Populi

    Wilson, Mr. Carson is only considered the “front runner” because he’s not being chosen by the voters, he’s the favorite of the party insiders. We need someone with more legislative experience than 4.5 months on the City County Council.

    I think Erin Rosenberg was right that we have a strong field of candidates, and Carson is one of them. But honestly, if Mr. Carson had a different last name, with his level of experience and age, would he still be considered the “front runner”? My speculation is that he would not.

  • br

    IRONICALLY, if Andre is the nominee, Elrod might have a shot at winning because there are non-insider D/Independents who would consider Elrod because they’re not really thrilled w. Andre. I know because I’m one of them and have discussed this with a number of others. But Rose won’t get our votes cause he’s too far right. I would vote for Elrod posibily, but never Rose. But David O is my pref.

  • anonymous

    Wilson, achieving little? The Peterson defeat is hardly achieving little and you certainly did your part in his loss. If you are Andre’s spokesperson, which role you take on, people are turned off.

    He may win the nomination for the special election, and if people vote for them it is because they don’t know Julia has passed and is just voting for the Carson name, but there are enough educated voters of both sides who know he is not qualified for DC.

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