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So Now That There’s a Smoking Ban…

It’s pretty much a foregone conclusion that the Indianapolis City-County Council tonight will pass an amended smoking ban that includes bars and taverns.  And I think it’s fair to say that unless there is some hidden ticking time bomb in the measure, Mayor Greg Ballard will sign it.  So when it is all said and done the only places where smoking will be allowed are private clubs, OTBs, and cigar and hookah bars.  So when advocates declare their victory I hope they go celebrate at one of those bars that were formerly smoking but now have to go non-smoking.

I say this because I can already see a few places in town that have been struggling to stay open in this economy now getting pushed out of business because the people who would come out and smoke when they drink now just stay home.   Now I do believe this is the part where the advocates come out and say “there is no net loss of business in communities where smoking bans have been in place.”   The key word there is “net”.   That means some places will gain business and others will to lose business, which means those workers that everyone talks about (many of whom smoke) will now have cleaner lungs and healthier bodies.  That’s good because they are going to need it as they look for another job.   But at least they won’t be exposed to secondhand smoke.  They may not eat or be able to pay rent or make their car payments, but at least they have their health.

Yes, I am being a bit facetious here.   Most of us cigar smokers are.  But the more important thing is one of the arguments have been made since Indianapolis first started debating a smoking ban in 2005 was whether local places would lose business?   Frankly, I think the free market system of choice has been working just fine for workers, owners and patrons.  However, after tonight we will live in a different world.   So with that being said, I hope the advocates that have been pushing this will run out and celebrate and continue to do so in places that used to be smoking.  Better yet, I am sure they’ll also be contacting those bar owners and asking them how Smoke Free Indy and other such groups can help those businesses with promotions and getting new customers in the door.  I figure it’s the least they could do.

Because if it’s true that nobody has ever gone out of business because of a smoking ban then there is no reason I should be back here in three months writing about the places that took it on the chin because the current compromise just wasn’t enough.

  • Scooter

     Dude, brush your teeth & gargle.

    *Whew*

  • Scooter

    Next second-hand smoke that the nanny-state will try to ban will be BBQ smoke.

    When I fire up the Webber, all my neighbors begin to salivate & their dogs start to whine.  The smell wafts across yards, thru open windows, up noses & into eyes…..

    Does that mean that the local Vegan can keep me from grillin’ steaks or BBQ’ing a couple slabs of ribs?  I mean, it’s all particles of combustion, right?

  • SsjIndy

    Pray for all the hookah bar patrons who will die because of this piece of law.

  • IndyAries

    Jeeeezzzzz…you act as if they are forced to patronize these smoking establishments.  Get a clue, for Christ’s sake!

    Clearly, you are another who does NOT believe in personal responsibility.

  • Think Again

    A really, really stupid comparison.  But for the record: my consumption of fattenign foods does not interfere in any way with your enjoyment of same at a restaurant.

    You do get that, right?

  • Think Again

    You could be right.

    No, thought about it.  Once again, you’re not.

  • Think Again

    It sure did.  

    This is better.

    For all.

  • Think Again

    Once again you’re woefully inadequate.

    Try this on for size:

    Govt. has, for a century or more, regulated vital public health issues.

    You cannot use formica in a restaurant kitchen because cuts can harbor germs.  Stainless steel is favored.

    You cannot smoke in a kitchen.  For obvious reasons.

    You must have a certain number of parking spaces and exit doors.

    It’s a natural progression and link.

    Try to keep up, huh?  

  • Think Again

    If that’s a score, please let him coach all Pacer playoff oponents  

  • Think Again

    OMG seriously?  You are delusional.

    Here’s one fact sheet, from the Cleveland Clinic.  A private entity, world-reknowed:

    http://my.clevelandclinic.org/tobacco/statistics_about_tobacco_use.aspx

    And the Centers for Disease Control weighs in:

    http://www.cdc.gov/tobacco/data_statistics/fact_sheets/secondhand_smoke/general
    _facts/index.htm

    Clickety on down at the CDC link: an estimated 46,000 deaths per year from second-hand smoke.  And over $5 billion a year in medical expenses.  Someone pays that.  Private insurers, you, me….

    Now please give up on that sorry-assed excuse.  The “freedom” argument makes much more sense.  It’s a loseer, too, but it makes more sense.

  • Think Again

    It could mean you’re a good cook.

  • Scooter

     That I am.

    It also means I’ve been hollered at for the carcinogenic smoke my charcoal grill produces.

    No kiddin’.

  • SsjIndy

    Sarcasm is lost on those who are too eager to criticize.

  • http://smokecaps.com/en/stop-smoking Mahib25

    I appreciate this initiative.