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IPS’ Year-Round Problem

I know when you see a blog post by me regarding the state’s largest public school district, you know it probably isn’t going to be flattering.   Well, you’re right.  The good news is though at the rate Indianapolis Public Schools keep losing students they won’t be the largest school district for very long.

The latest scheme the district is launching in an effort to save the sinking education ship is to adopt a year-round model as opposed to the traditional 9-month calendar.   IPS is trying to sell the concept of 9 weeks on, 3 weeks off,  to its parents and the public, although virtually no one showed up for the first meeting at Arlington.

This may surprise you but I actually support the year-round school concept.  No offense to summer vacation supporters, but the 9-month calendar is based on a time when we were primarily and agrarian society and kids need to be home to work on the farm.  In addition, most nations spend more time in schools than their American counterparts.  I think you could make adjustments for summer work study programs, but a year-round calendar is a pretty good idea.

The problem with mixing a year-round calendar with IPS is the equivalent of rearranging the deck chairs on the Titanic.  First of all, the school district is losing students (950 this year), therefore state dollars.  Secondly, and more importantly, the basic assumption of  a year-round calendar is that students get a better education.   Remember these stats from IPS’ 2010 State of the District report?

  • 49% graduation rate.
  • Decreasing ISTEP+ passing rates as students go from grades 3 to 8.
  • Black students in grades 3,4, 7 and 8 performing near the bottom when it comes to English and Language Arts.
  • Less than half of  3rd graders pass the math and science portion of of the ISTEP test and that number drops to 28% by the 8th grade.

Now the school district does have some redeemable qualities, five of  of IPS’ magnet schools received nationwide recognition as Outstanding Magnet Schools, but you have to ask does that outweigh the districts other problems?  I don’t think so.

IPS is on the verge of virtual takeover by the State of  Indiana next year for failing to meet state mandated standards and instead of addressing serious internal issues, the school district is making questionable hires during a time of fiscal uncertainty.  It faced a $26 million shortfall this year and the only thing that saved the District was stimulus dollars that won’t be there next year.

So you tell me, should going year-round be IPS’ main priority right now?  There’s like nothing putting more water in a bucket with a hole in the bottom to make it look full.

  • Think Again

    I could be wrong, but I think Eugene is trying everything–anything–to make the district work.

    Ideally, a year-round school would better-utilize facilities. That would likely mean another round of school closings, which they need.

    That system is bleeding cash. Their facilities’ cost is ridiculous. They’ve got to try something.

    He’s got 1-3 years til retirement. He is IPS’s last great hope. It’s a Hail Mary, but it might just work.

    It won’t harm education. Why not stand back and let ‘er rip?

  • Pascal

    Why be such a conservative? There is little enough in IPS that should be conserved as it is a model that clearly (very clearly, actually) cannot be made to work, is not designed to educate children, is not customer friendly as much as it is adult friendly.
    So, look around the country and see what is working and emulate that. New Orleans comes to mind. Tinkering around the edges of government schools only consigns more victems to the educationalists at expenses only guessed at. The only reason that prolonging IPS won’t harm “education” is that it is already dead or so nearly so that reasonable people don’t waste time kicking it anymore.
    Does anyone think that the State of Indiana taking over IPS will result in any improvements at all? Would IDOE, who is without talent, have any tools for use that Super White does not have? If so, why not give those tools to Super White? If not, then Tully’s quoted comments in his generally useful series on IPS/Government schools come to mind.

  • Think Again

    Miracles never cease. Pascal, you and I agree, at least partially.

    Tony Bennett was a lousy district school superintendent…something for which Abdul never holds him accountable during their multiple on-air lovefests–and he brought similar “talent” to IDOE. I have no hope that the state would do it better. Different faces, delayed improvement…

    New Orleans isn’t a great example. I mean, if we have to bend over and take a hurricane to nearly-demolish our city, and permanently evacuate half the population, no thanks.

    One thing that does work: smaller school districts. In some states, each high school and its feeder system, constitute one school district. There is no Superintendent (hoo-ray!)–the chief administrator oversees the high school and the district. Because the ultimate goal is to graduate literate high schoolers, the focus begins in kindergarten, with the ultimate boss the guy who’s held accountable for the statistics.

    Still, the overwhelming majority of what’s left at IPS, is the most-difficult-to-educate, the poorest, the most troubled sociologically. I don’t have any constructive ideas on how to alter that. Those kids are much more expensive to teach and reach.

    If IPS were a house, it’d be the most beat-up house on the block. Tough decisions lie ahead. Year-round school will free up some money pretty quickly. If that money is properly spent, instead of Eugene’s fascinating with athletics, hiring former Colts for make-work jobs, etc., we’re doomed.

    By the by, thank you to the three school board members who voted against that ridiculous hire. Finally, some common-sense questions are being asked there. It might be too late.

    Remember, Abdul, when Mrs. Bentley asked for a full copy of the budget, and was rebuked for awhile by Eugene? Fellow board members actually defended the superintendent. That’s how nutso things are. Alice in Wonderland. Kelly got out—she was too frustrated.

    That full-detailed budget would’ve had things like this ex-Colt’s new job at 72K a year. Those kidns of make-up jobs are Eugene’s forte: he got one for his own son, and the (old) board approved it. Seriously.

    Eugene treats the school board the way he wants to treat taxpayers: like mushrooms. Feed us shit and keep us in the dark.

    Those days are over, thankfully. 4-3 votes don’t change things overnight, but believe me, one thing Eugene knows, is how to count to 4 on that board. He hears the footsteps, louder and louder behind him.

  • Nick

    Abdul, your premise is that IPS is a lost cause, which I completely disagree. I am a huge fan of the year round calendar, in fact I know a teacher who has worked in a IPS year round calendar magnet school for many years who can’t say enough good things about it, except the scheduling conflicts with the rest of the IPS district on the traditional calendar. As much as Tony and Eugene hate each other, you must give Eugene credit for requiring school uniforms, introducing magnet schools, getting air conditioning in all schools, closing old buildings, and now pushing year round calendar. IPS has a long way to go, but some progress is being made.

  • Nick

    Abdul,

    Please have Tony tell us what he would do to turn around the IPS and MANY rural Indiana schools which are not meeting Annual Yearly Progress (AYP) goals, other than get rid of his enemies and sell off schools to his buddies.

  • Wendy S

    I love how Abdul downplays the successful Magnet programs.

    What is the common link behind the success of those schools? Families/neighborhoods/communities who value education.

    What is the common link behind the “failing” schools? Families/neighborhoods/communities who do not value education.

    It is a pretty simple thing to understand. Changing years of culture – not so simple.

    Of course, Abdul is just in this for the money – grab and run.

    Changing the administration mass firing of teachers, etc. may solve a problem here or there, but none of Abdul’s solutions (he has some, right?) will change the culture of this City.

  • Wsti88

    Abdul doesn’t ask questions folks don’t want to answer. Especially the ol’ ball coach.

    Nobody cares about the rural schools…there is no money to be made there. We’re only concerned about taking over schools where there are numbers. Students=dollars. The companies have figured that out.

  • http://twitter.com/317Russ Russ Ray

    Looks like Abdul went to IPS, because he misspelled “calendar” 5 times throughout and doesn’t know how spellcheck works. Unless, of course, he was talking about a series of hard pressure rollers used to form or smooth a sheet of material. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Calender

  • John Howard

    The proposed new schedule just presents more start-of-’year’ opportunities for IPS students to not show up during the first week or two.

  • Thinkk Again

    I make a lot of typo mistakes. I don’t know how to use spellcheck on this site or I would…if I have time.

    Spellcheck won’t cover for faulty logic or incomplete reporting. Abdul is guilty of both from time-to-time. I’ve figured this out: if they’re in-studio or on the phone, he’s much less likely to get pushy. If they’re not present, he gets more frisky.

    I’ll leave the deductions to you, but I know what we used to call that when I was young.

    I’ll give Abdul this: he has dug more back-channel stuff, than all the reporters in this town combined over the last few years. That’s good. The Bisard texting yesterday was just off-the-charts interesting.

    But the perennial suckup to AllThingsLibertarian and/or Republican is an old line. This morning, for instance, he let the Republican blogger wax poetic about Evan Bayh’s residency vs. Coats’s. The two are not even remotely comparable. Abdul doesn’t know what he’s talking about. Bayh-haters: take your crap elsewhere. Facts are facts.

    Need a short history/residency tutorial, Abdul? No less a figure than a staunchly conservative Republican Judge in Shelby County threw out the Bayh residency challenge in 1986–I was there and heard his complete contempt for the attempt. Shelby County wasn’t–and isn’t–exactly a bastion of liberal thought.

    Dan Coats has not lived in Indiana for 12 years. Period. He is on tape telling North Carolinians he doesn’t want his Indiana friends to know he wants to live in NC. Stupid, but not criminal. He always was a dim bulb.

    I’m sure he technically kept his Indiana residency. But don’t pee on my leg and tell me it’s raining. Sen.-to-be Coats is lightly carpet-bagging. I don’t think he’ll do it again if he’s elected. Things changed, he changed his mind, and we move on.

  • Melyssa

    Neither Dr. White nor the IPS school board have defined graduation goals for IPS. I know. I asked and no one could give me a number. Abdul, you should ask that question too.

    Can you imagine running a private organization or business without a clearly defined goal that every single player in the organization knew?

    I work for a very successful company. And you can bet the company goal and our personal goals are known, measured, recorded, and watched constantly. That’s how we achieve success.

  • Ramon

    Eugene wrote a dress code but his building admnistrators have not enforced it. It is on paper only. Just a PR move. Magnet schools were here long before Eugene. Many of the ones he has attempted to start have failed or have so few students and are greatly overstaffed. Many schools still do not have air conditioning. I oppose year round school but if Eugene and his spineless school board think it is such a good idea then he should have conducted real community meetings for input. Everyone knows that this was a done deal crafted by Eugene and Mary Busch months before he started his hearings for “input”. As usual, his community input sessions are only window dressing for PR. Eugene is a liar.

  • Ramon

    Tony’s own school system of which he was the superintendent was a failing system. If you can’t succeed in a small rural
    Sourthern Indiana school system, what do you have to offer the state of Indiana. Nothing???

  • http://twitter.com/317Russ Russ Ray

    There’s no doubt that Abdul is harder working than most of the jokes reporting in this town, but his gimmick is that he’s such a genius and he can’t run a freakin’ spell check. I agree with most everything else you said on Coats though… he was a lazy choice for a candidate, but he’s the candidate so whatcha gonna do?

  • pascal

    Sometimes one takes too much for granted when making an allusion. New Orleans junked, pretty much in toto, their version of IPS and went with Mr. Vallas’s view of providing value to kids. What had been a cesspool of democrat parasitism is now a super performing school system based on a model that has prospect of success even if it is a way station on the road to success.
    I’m sure Super Bennett would like to have the success that his compatriot in New Orleans has enjoyed. Probably Super White would as well? However, Dumbocraps have interest in maintaining Indiana as an educational backwater and lying to kids, parents, and anyone else stupid enough to listen to them.
    I’m looking forward to the R’s plan for reformation of so called schools with the hope that Mitch will do for those losers what he did for the BMV.

  • Abdul

    Thanks for the calendar correction. That word and I have never gotten along.

  • Pascal

    One prospect for spell check is to compose in Word, utilize it’s spellchecker, then, copy and paste. But, I concur with most that large hands and small keyboards will make for errors and we don’t really care if there is an occaisonal miscue or mispelling.

  • Think Again

    Well, I’m not voting for him, but I’m sure that’s a minority vote on this blog. So be it.

  • Think Again

    I never thought of that Good point. It’s hard on an iPhone keyboard, but easier at the desktop

  • Think Again

    TESTIFY, brother.

    Ask Tony about THAT, Abdul.

  • Rico

    Secretary of Education Arne Duncan was the superintendent of the Chicago Public School system. No greater example of failure in government education exists.

    You libs do a great job of keeping your outrage local.

  • Rico

    Don’t forget Dan’s ‘Coats for Kids’ at the Colts game this Sunday. Wait…did I read that right? He wants children to vote for him…? Whaaaaa?

  • Think Again

    You can have your own opinion, Rico, but not your own facts. He helped turn that system around. Tremendous improvement.

    And even if he didn’t, I’m talking about OUR state Super, right here in INDIANA. Whose district Superintendency was not marked by good test scores. Get it?

  • Anonymous

    “So, look around the country and see what is working and emulate that.”

    Why not also look around the world? Look at all of the countries that are puttin’ the hurt on us academically, and emulate those models.

    Did the Prussian model fail us, or did we fail it?

    And, I’m all for the State taking over IPS if it means that White hits the road, WITHOUT more money, bonuses, etc.

  • Ramon

    If it takes the state taking over to get rid of the bully, arrogant idiot Eugene White then I say “Come on State”.

  • Ramon

    If Eugene is IPS’s last hope, shut it down today. Eugene is an idiot.

  • Pascal

    A farmer gets a hoe, a rake, a watering can, and essentially, all the tools he needs to grow stuff. Your Legislature took away from Eugene (and all other supers) many of the needed tools a person needs to instruct large numbers of kids. Some of those tools they gave to Super Bennett (who does not use them and who may not know how to use them) and they are pristine for lack of use. Over the years then, impossible jobs like Indy Super come to be filled by lesser men….men willing to put up with Legislative and other BS. But, one ought not to complain about the quality of those men seeing as how the public has demanded them by driving out the real men from the profession.
    I’d be willing to give Super White the tools. Remember the Tully interview at Broadripple High where their leader reminded folks that 70 % or so of his work force was coasting or loafing and that Super Bennett would wind up with the same results unless he had new tools?

  • Dave

    It takes a pillage to raze a child.

    The adult daycare system known as “public education,” is designed to self perpetuate, not educate.

    IPS is the 70 / 30 proof (escape er graduation rate), that “public” education is an oxymoronic, statist notion, nothing more than indoctrination; the mindless waste product of inbred stink tanks.

  • Ramon

    Dave, do you have a dictionary of overused, trite cliches that you review before posting your rants?

  • Dave

    Clearly Ramon(e), “My brain is hanging upside down;” awaiting “hope & change.”

  • Jhays

    It seems that “dr” Eugenia White and our recently “politically deceased” DMV Chief have a great deal in common. Both believe they can wear the trousers around their ankles in public and, garner admiration. The only difference being that one faces forward and, the other aft. As an observation, it would seem to make little difference what sort of Onanism one were to practice, it shan’t ever raise the dead.

  • Taxpayer 834512

    You’ve got good ideas and are willing to acknowledge some of the boat anchors:
    1) parental standards
    2) union seniority trumping teacher performance
    3) an IPS board that is still the voice of the superintendent instead of the taxpayers

    White (as mentioned) has tried a few things. I don’t see how ANYBODY can swing the district around if you can’t get parenting onboard for something as innocuous as a dress code. I think that’s symbolic writing-on-the-wall of a systematic dysfunctionality. Bennett will have better luck turning water to wine than fixing this one- but I’d love to be wrong. Even if a “tough love” approach was taken with the parents, you have to back it up with a lot of change in removing some kids from some dysfunctional homes. Maybe that’s what’s best for our city in the long run, but that’s a bridge our reticent and underfunded legislature have been reluctant to cross.

  • teach

    As a 12 year teacher for IPS, I go into the classroom each day and give it my all. I have been cursed at, spit on, hit, told how worthless I am and much more. Still I continue to try. Many days I put my own children and their education second while I try to FIX the issues in my classroom and help the children become the best they possibly can be! The problem is not soley with our educational system but more likely with our government. My 7 year old students feel it is unlikely they will succeed. They will tell me they don’t care because they have no goals and ambitions for their future. The state will take care of their basic needs. Why work so hard if you don’t have too. Many of the children don’t want an education. They don’t respect it or find value in it. We are constantly fighting them and trying to force what we feel is best for them down their throats and often they refuse in rage. I’m not certain what more someone else could do but you cannot make someone learn if they do not want to. I love my summer breaks with my own children but would eagerly give them up if only I thought it might make a difference. But I am afraid it will not matter because the difference has to come from the children we serve and until we can help them see the value and meaning for education nothing will matter.

  • Think Again

    Please, Ramon. DON’T feed the animals. They only return.

  • Think Again

    Wow.

    You’d really consider shoving anything, including education, down a 7-year-old’s throat?

    You need to get out. Yesterday.

  • dirtyblues

    thank you for your 12 yrs of service to humanity…

    most of the egg & sperm donors of the children in your classroom…

    do not have a basic understanding of the nature of your profession…

    ‘THE PURPOSE OF EDUCATION IS TO GIVE THE STUDENT – AKA UNLEARNED HOMO SAPIENS – THE INTELLECTUAL TOOLS TO ANALYZE PROBLEMS, WHETHER VERBALLY OR NUMERICALLY, & TO REACH CONCLUSIONS & SOLUTIONS BASED ON LOGIC, FACTS & EVIDENCE – ON AN EVER-EVOLVING SCALE’

    …priceless!!!

  • pascal

    Government schools are as described. From Reps Porter and Crawford we have Planned Parenthood’s Sex Education bill they wish to force down the throats of parents and kids. Government schools have their own agenda wherein, surprise, surprise, the growth and extent of government is extolled and its role in “history” is praised. Not to mention, the instructors are not, generally, of the first academic rank but are willing to consider themselves as “educators” when their own “education” is closer to a bad joke.
    No knock on our poster, a person trapped in a bad system

  • Sheri2names

    Michelle Rhee needs a job.

  • Sheri2names

    Michelle Rhee needs a job.