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		<title>By: Indianadobie</title>
		<link>http://www.indianabarrister.com/archives/2010/07/who_are_they_running_against.html/comment-page-1#comment-38309</link>
		<dc:creator>Indianadobie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Jul 2010 22:23:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Of course the tax payers in counties outside of Marion County don&#039;t want to pay for the Pacers. Neither do the taxpayers in Marion County!&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;It is dishonest to pretend that the tax dollars that are being funnelled to the CIB isn&#039;t taking money away from other city and state needs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Of course the tax payers in counties outside of Marion County don&#39;t want to pay for the Pacers. Neither do the taxpayers in Marion County!</p>
<p>It is dishonest to pretend that the tax dollars that are being funnelled to the CIB isn&#39;t taking money away from other city and state needs.</p>
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		<title>By: IndyRacer57</title>
		<link>http://www.indianabarrister.com/archives/2010/07/who_are_they_running_against.html/comment-page-1#comment-38298</link>
		<dc:creator>IndyRacer57</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Jul 2010 20:19:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You know I have to point out something here. We read where the city or state is spending millions of dollars. Just think, 33 million dollars to the pacers. Most working people in Indiana or Indianapolis will never have even one million dollars by the the time they leave this earth. I amazes the figures thrown out in budgets these days. It must be nice to just pass a budget rather we have the money or not because we can always borrow and let further generations pay for it plus interest. Even thru I invest in many municipal bonds, I would like to see the government live within their means. Still I enjoy the interest of 4.5 to 5% tax free money. So keep the borrowing up please.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You know I have to point out something here. We read where the city or state is spending millions of dollars. Just think, 33 million dollars to the pacers. Most working people in Indiana or Indianapolis will never have even one million dollars by the the time they leave this earth. I amazes the figures thrown out in budgets these days. It must be nice to just pass a budget rather we have the money or not because we can always borrow and let further generations pay for it plus interest. Even thru I invest in many municipal bonds, I would like to see the government live within their means. Still I enjoy the interest of 4.5 to 5% tax free money. So keep the borrowing up please.</p>
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		<title>By: Think Again</title>
		<link>http://www.indianabarrister.com/archives/2010/07/who_are_they_running_against.html/comment-page-1#comment-38299</link>
		<dc:creator>Think Again</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Jul 2010 20:18:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Your school funding idea is interesting, but unconstitutional.  I&#039;m not sure that little tidbit ever stopped anyone.  School fudnign has been a hot potato for a long time.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;The real problem with governmental &quot;capitals&quot; is their monumental edifices are tax-exempt.  Millions that would otherwise be on the tax roles, are not.  Yet, the persons who occupy those buldings reuqire the streets, roads, sidewalks, fire, ambulance, police, public works, etc., that their operators pay nothing for...&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;In Brown County, for instance, a huge chunk of the land is tax-exempt--state and federal lands used for recreational purposes.  That county houses America&#039;s most-popular state park, and the stress placed on local infrastructure is great.  Sure, they benefit from it, but disproportionately.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Their school system has been God-awful for decades--a mess. It was taken over by the state for e brief period in the 80s.  They have a hard time raising the needed funds because so much land is tax-exempt.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Mitch&#039;s school budget plan shuld help them.  But it is way late.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Multiply that scenario over multiple infrastructure budgets for the City of Indianapolis, caused by state use without proportional payments.  &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Borders create interesting problems, don&#039;t they?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Your school funding idea is interesting, but unconstitutional.  I&#39;m not sure that little tidbit ever stopped anyone.  School fudnign has been a hot potato for a long time.</p>
<p>The real problem with governmental &#8220;capitals&#8221; is their monumental edifices are tax-exempt.  Millions that would otherwise be on the tax roles, are not.  Yet, the persons who occupy those buldings reuqire the streets, roads, sidewalks, fire, ambulance, police, public works, etc., that their operators pay nothing for&#8230;</p>
<p>In Brown County, for instance, a huge chunk of the land is tax-exempt&#8211;state and federal lands used for recreational purposes.  That county houses America&#39;s most-popular state park, and the stress placed on local infrastructure is great.  Sure, they benefit from it, but disproportionately.</p>
<p>Their school system has been God-awful for decades&#8211;a mess. It was taken over by the state for e brief period in the 80s.  They have a hard time raising the needed funds because so much land is tax-exempt.</p>
<p>Mitch&#39;s school budget plan shuld help them.  But it is way late.</p>
<p>Multiply that scenario over multiple infrastructure budgets for the City of Indianapolis, caused by state use without proportional payments.  </p>
<p>Borders create interesting problems, don&#39;t they?</p>
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		<title>By: Abdul</title>
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		<dc:creator>Abdul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Jul 2010 19:28:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Far from tardy TA, I&#039;ve been an advocate of this since I came to Indiana.  As far as uniqueness goes, good ideas should never be the sole purview of a handful of individuals, unfortunately they are most of the time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Far from tardy TA, I&#39;ve been an advocate of this since I came to Indiana.  As far as uniqueness goes, good ideas should never be the sole purview of a handful of individuals, unfortunately they are most of the time.</p>
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		<title>By: Think Again</title>
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		<dc:creator>Think Again</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Jul 2010 19:00:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here is a perspective that you ignore:&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Every capital, from DC to each of the 50 states, has unique needs, services and projects which cannot and are not carried out in the &quot;outlands.&quot;  Admittedly, support of pro sport teams pushes that envelope.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;But the expense for extra duties assigned to capitals, are often not picked up by the appropriate taxing unit.  When local governments don&#039;t get all their capital-related expenses paid, it bleeds into other areas.  Again, the pro sports team thing...well, that&#039;s not contemplated in this thought process, but you get the point.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;This non-Indy legislative pandering has been going on for years.  It won&#039;t stop soon.  Republicans fanned it exhaustively during the Bayh and O&#039;Bannon administrations.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Your observation is poignant, Abdul, but tardy.  And hardly unique.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here is a perspective that you ignore:</p>
<p>Every capital, from DC to each of the 50 states, has unique needs, services and projects which cannot and are not carried out in the &#8220;outlands.&#8221;  Admittedly, support of pro sport teams pushes that envelope.</p>
<p>But the expense for extra duties assigned to capitals, are often not picked up by the appropriate taxing unit.  When local governments don&#39;t get all their capital-related expenses paid, it bleeds into other areas.  Again, the pro sports team thing&#8230;well, that&#39;s not contemplated in this thought process, but you get the point.</p>
<p>This non-Indy legislative pandering has been going on for years.  It won&#39;t stop soon.  Republicans fanned it exhaustively during the Bayh and O&#39;Bannon administrations.</p>
<p>Your observation is poignant, Abdul, but tardy.  And hardly unique.</p>
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		<title>By: gp38-2</title>
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		<dc:creator>gp38-2</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Jul 2010 18:32:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot; I would not want my tax dollars to go for Indianapolis projects, just like I’m sure they don’t want Indianapolis tax money to be used in their districts. &quot;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Awesome.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8221; I would not want my tax dollars to go for Indianapolis projects, just like I’m sure they don’t want Indianapolis tax money to be used in their districts. &#8220;</p>
<p>Awesome.</p>
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		<title>By: Melyssa </title>
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		<dc:creator>Melyssa </dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Jul 2010 18:28:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Much of the content of Revolt at The State House was directed against the CIB and future bailouts.  That was in March 2009.    Some of the legislators paid attention.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Much of the content of Revolt at The State House was directed against the CIB and future bailouts.  That was in March 2009.    Some of the legislators paid attention.</p>
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		<title>By: Indiana_Barrister</title>
		<link>http://www.indianabarrister.com/archives/2010/07/who_are_they_running_against.html/comment-page-1#comment-38290</link>
		<dc:creator>Indiana_Barrister</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Jul 2010 17:03:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gary, &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;You are the last person to talk about what someone doesn&#039;t understand.  I will gladly argue that money generated from downtown should be used for Indy needs first and let these other small counties pay for their own projects out of their own county coffers.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Speaking of which, what are doing reading this blog, much less posting here?  I thought I had no credibility?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gary, </p>
<p>You are the last person to talk about what someone doesn&#39;t understand.  I will gladly argue that money generated from downtown should be used for Indy needs first and let these other small counties pay for their own projects out of their own county coffers.</p>
<p>Speaking of which, what are doing reading this blog, much less posting here?  I thought I had no credibility?</p>
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		<title>By: Check it out first</title>
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		<dc:creator>Check it out first</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Jul 2010 16:51:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;In addition these lawmakers must not understand how government finance works because the $33 million for the Pacers will come out of the C.I.B.’s existing budget and not the state general fund, so no school is losing any money because of the C.I.B.&quot;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;You obviously don&#039;t understand where the CIB got the money for its state bailout last year, which ultimately paid for the Pacers give-away. The sports tax district area was expanded to divert tens of millions of state income and sales tax dollars from the state&#039;s general fund to the CIB.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;In addition these lawmakers must not understand how government finance works because the $33 million for the Pacers will come out of the C.I.B.’s existing budget and not the state general fund, so no school is losing any money because of the C.I.B.&#8221;</p>
<p>You obviously don&#39;t understand where the CIB got the money for its state bailout last year, which ultimately paid for the Pacers give-away. The sports tax district area was expanded to divert tens of millions of state income and sales tax dollars from the state&#39;s general fund to the CIB.</p>
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