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		<title>By: pascal</title>
		<link>http://www.indianabarrister.com/archives/2010/01/open_forum-4.html/comment-page-1#comment-30725</link>
		<dc:creator>pascal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Jan 2010 17:51:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Conspiracy theorist or not the recent revelations to the unknowing public about the Wishard Lies has all of the elements of a conspiracy against the taxpayers and the general unknowing public. One media sort looked into it and J.R. Gaylor pulled off the covers in his recent letter to the Star-a worthless paper who was taken in, hook, line, and sinker along with all the other fools who supported this boondoggle.  The Buffalo Jump is alive and well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Conspiracy theorist or not the recent revelations to the unknowing public about the Wishard Lies has all of the elements of a conspiracy against the taxpayers and the general unknowing public. One media sort looked into it and J.R. Gaylor pulled off the covers in his recent letter to the Star-a worthless paper who was taken in, hook, line, and sinker along with all the other fools who supported this boondoggle.  The Buffalo Jump is alive and well.</p>
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		<title>By: ziggy2knives</title>
		<link>http://www.indianabarrister.com/archives/2010/01/open_forum-4.html/comment-page-1#comment-30469</link>
		<dc:creator>ziggy2knives</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Jan 2010 20:04:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If the Franklin Township Board were to have voted down the merger, or the merger was not even a posibility, the tax rate would have climbed to $0.47 on the hundred next year.  Couple this with the FACT that there would have been significant benefit losses and layoffs for the firefighters of FTFD.  With the board passing the merger resolution, the tax rate will jump to $0.67 next year.  It will drop back to $0.47 the following year, and when the debt is paid off after year 2, it will drop to the IFD rate which is somewhere in the $0.20s.  Plus, no layoffs and an agreement from IFD that will gaurantee more firefighter staffing for the residents of Franklin Township.  If you don&#039;t buy what I am saying than call your Franklin Township board member and ask them why the resolution passed 7-0.   It was a no-brainer benefit to the residents &amp; firefighters.  Even the biggest opponents to IFD taking over FTFD were in support of the resolution at the meeting.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If the Franklin Township Board were to have voted down the merger, or the merger was not even a posibility, the tax rate would have climbed to $0.47 on the hundred next year.  Couple this with the FACT that there would have been significant benefit losses and layoffs for the firefighters of FTFD.  With the board passing the merger resolution, the tax rate will jump to $0.67 next year.  It will drop back to $0.47 the following year, and when the debt is paid off after year 2, it will drop to the IFD rate which is somewhere in the $0.20s.  Plus, no layoffs and an agreement from IFD that will gaurantee more firefighter staffing for the residents of Franklin Township.  If you don&#39;t buy what I am saying than call your Franklin Township board member and ask them why the resolution passed 7-0.   It was a no-brainer benefit to the residents &#038; firefighters.  Even the biggest opponents to IFD taking over FTFD were in support of the resolution at the meeting.</p>
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		<title>By: Dave</title>
		<link>http://www.indianabarrister.com/archives/2010/01/open_forum-4.html/comment-page-1#comment-30466</link>
		<dc:creator>Dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Jan 2010 19:55:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No bother, fair enough, you&#039;re right, that was a flip response.  Look, where charity is noble, there&#039;s nothing virtuous about subsidy; an arbitrary euphemism for theft.  We need to dehypnotize ourselves from the false belief that subsidies are somehow more &quot;justifiable&quot; than the natural operations of the free market.  Taking ain&#039;t making, those who insist it &#039;tis are faking.  &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Having family in New O, the street car nostalgia thing is quaint, romantic &amp; understandable, but should be the donation or tax write off of benefactors, not unconstitutional taking from any citizen; or cease to exist, as the market might dictate.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No bother, fair enough, you&#39;re right, that was a flip response.  Look, where charity is noble, there&#39;s nothing virtuous about subsidy; an arbitrary euphemism for theft.  We need to dehypnotize ourselves from the false belief that subsidies are somehow more &#8220;justifiable&#8221; than the natural operations of the free market.  Taking ain&#39;t making, those who insist it &#39;tis are faking.  </p>
<p>Having family in New O, the street car nostalgia thing is quaint, romantic &#038; understandable, but should be the donation or tax write off of benefactors, not unconstitutional taking from any citizen; or cease to exist, as the market might dictate.</p>
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		<title>By: Mayor McCheese</title>
		<link>http://www.indianabarrister.com/archives/2010/01/open_forum-4.html/comment-page-1#comment-30416</link>
		<dc:creator>Mayor McCheese</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Jan 2010 17:12:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://indianapolistimesblog.blogspot.com/2010/01/peta-city-deal-with-kfc-is-anything-but.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://indianapolistimesblog.blogspot.com/2010/...&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Even PETA is pizzled over this deal.  LOLzzzz.</description>
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<p>Even PETA is pizzled over this deal.  LOLzzzz.</p>
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		<title>By: Think Again</title>
		<link>http://www.indianabarrister.com/archives/2010/01/open_forum-4.html/comment-page-1#comment-30415</link>
		<dc:creator>Think Again</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Jan 2010 16:25:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You want fries with that?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You want fries with that?</p>
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		<title>By: IndyAries</title>
		<link>http://www.indianabarrister.com/archives/2010/01/open_forum-4.html/comment-page-1#comment-30414</link>
		<dc:creator>IndyAries</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Jan 2010 16:11:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rico, we have one of the best written Constitutional guarantees in the nation.  However, we have let groups of lawyers in a robe (LiaR) and politicians to amend our Constitution by fiat.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;There is NOTHING in our Constitution that permits the General ASSembly to regulate &#039;arms&#039; AT ALL.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&quot;The people shall have a right to bear arms, for the defense of themselves and the State.&quot; -- Art 1 Sec 32&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Now, contrast the above language with the Illinois Constitution on their Right to Keep &amp; Bear Arms:&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&quot;Subject only to the police power, the right of the individual citizen to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.&quot; -- Art 1 Sec 22&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Hmmm...&quot;Subject only to the police power...&quot;  We have NOTHING like this in our Constitution.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Thus, without legally amending our Constitution via Article 16, government has effectively altered our Section 32 to be like the Illinois Section 22 -- government regulation (police power) allowed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rico, we have one of the best written Constitutional guarantees in the nation.  However, we have let groups of lawyers in a robe (LiaR) and politicians to amend our Constitution by fiat.</p>
<p>There is NOTHING in our Constitution that permits the General ASSembly to regulate &#39;arms&#39; AT ALL.</p>
<p>&#8220;The people shall have a right to bear arms, for the defense of themselves and the State.&#8221; &#8212; Art 1 Sec 32</p>
<p>Now, contrast the above language with the Illinois Constitution on their Right to Keep &#038; Bear Arms:</p>
<p>&#8220;Subject only to the police power, the right of the individual citizen to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.&#8221; &#8212; Art 1 Sec 22</p>
<p>Hmmm&#8230;&#8221;Subject only to the police power&#8230;&#8221;  We have NOTHING like this in our Constitution.</p>
<p>Thus, without legally amending our Constitution via Article 16, government has effectively altered our Section 32 to be like the Illinois Section 22 &#8212; government regulation (police power) allowed.</p>
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		<title>By: subyak127</title>
		<link>http://www.indianabarrister.com/archives/2010/01/open_forum-4.html/comment-page-1#comment-30340</link>
		<dc:creator>subyak127</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Jan 2010 08:50:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry to have bothered you I thought we were having a discussion....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry to have bothered you I thought we were having a discussion&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Mayor McCheese</title>
		<link>http://www.indianabarrister.com/archives/2010/01/open_forum-4.html/comment-page-1#comment-30341</link>
		<dc:creator>Mayor McCheese</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Jan 2010 06:35:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I will give you FIVE THOUSAND DOLLARS if you put my picture on some Fire Extinguishers.    Gobble gobble.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I will give you FIVE THOUSAND DOLLARS if you put my picture on some Fire Extinguishers.    Gobble gobble.</p>
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		<title>By: Dave</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Jan 2010 06:19:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Seen mass transit &#039;round de globe, including Charlotte,  It&#039;s anachronistic group think, not new thinking...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Seen mass transit &#39;round de globe, including Charlotte,  It&#39;s anachronistic group think, not new thinking&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Dave</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Jan 2010 06:16:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fact sheet?  Here&#039;s another link:  &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.santaclaus.net&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;www.santaclaus.net&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fact sheet?  Here&#39;s another link:  <a href="http://www.santaclaus.net" rel="nofollow">http://www.santaclaus.net</a></p>
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