Comments on: Safer In the City?

By: guest

guest — Sat, 05 Dec 2009 22:48:18 +0000

Indyundercover,

Just an FYI. Expect some tense relationships between Public Safety and the 25th floor over recent insurance issues. Apparently, someone will not be honoring contractual issues and may be looking to prune the public safety budget.

By: guest

guest — Sat, 05 Dec 2009 16:48:18 +0000

Indyundercover,

By: agman

agman — Fri, 04 Dec 2009 22:24:00 +0000

Thundermutt: you are reaching far beyond anything you could know—I am not a racist and my phobias have nothing to do with the race of people in the area. Simply I have no desire to go into downtown Indy and do not go to Indy unless necessary –did go to north side this week but never something I look forward to doing. Actually a combination of not liking big city traffic, streets, and other things—the personal safety is an issue along with the other factors. Have turned down employment if involved downtown location. For TA and others you are not very much aware of the thinking of many “out in the country” and perhaps simply not used to the daily reports of violence.

By: Thundermutt

Thundermutt — Fri, 04 Dec 2009 21:57:05 +0000

varan…you do realize that agman's “perception” is code for “there's black and Hispanic people inside 465″, don't you?

By: Think Again

Think Again — Thu, 03 Dec 2009 18:57:51 +0000

I'm not saying I disagree, Varan…I've just never heard it expressed that way before. Ever. And I have friends and relatives, as well as business associates, all over the nine-county area.

I doubt that attitude is pervasive, but if it exists anywhere, it should be recognized and dealt with. It's incorrect as hell, but…people form opinions base don multiple things, some good, some bad, some wrong…

By: varangianguard

varangianguard — Thu, 03 Dec 2009 16:49:56 +0000

You don't get out of town much then? My wife used to work down in the Center Grove area and she heard from many sources that those sources had never been downtown, and weren't ever planning on coming downtown.

And for some, "downtown" means just about anything inside the 465 loop, too.

That perception is vitally important, trumping almost anything else, including facts, is an important point.

As a keen observer of politics TA, you should acknowledge that perception is all too often more important than the truth.

By: Think Again

Think Again — Thu, 03 Dec 2009 16:02:48 +0000

Wow, agman. I have never, ever heard that opinion shared by anyone in your similar position. Ever.

By: varangianguard

varangianguard — Thu, 03 Dec 2009 15:06:38 +0000

agman, you've got a very good point.

By: agman

agman — Thu, 03 Dec 2009 13:45:51 +0000

Just a meaningless statement from a person from miles away from Indy out in the sticks—-my preception of Indy and particularly downtown is not one of personal safety. Of course, my primary sources of information are the evening news from the various Indy channels–no comfortable feelings there. But the bottom line is I do avoid meetings and events in Indy as much as possible and particularly downtown. Right or wrong is not really important but preception is—. Bottom line also is as a person with some input into activities occurring or not occurring downtown (meetings and conventions) my preception plays a major role in my input. Reality.

By: rd2

rd2 — Thu, 03 Dec 2009 13:44:06 +0000

Now if we could get IMPD to be proactive rather than reactive, we might see some progress.