Comments on: Why Wishard Won

By: Dave

Dave — Fri, 06 Nov 2009 17:59:00 +0000

Proponent engineered, drafting, placement & timing, can do “an Enron” around public interest. Informationally disarmed citizens are poorly served; by disclosure deficiencies coupled with emotive drafting that “hallmarks” citizens to adopt referenda, like fuzzy, warm bellied kittens & puppies.

If a “policy” requires Trojan horsing it ain't cricket. Why confuse failed oversight (failure) with “authority?”

By: Dave

Dave — Fri, 06 Nov 2009 11:59:00 +0000

If a “policy” requires Trojan horsing it ain't cricket. Why confuse failed oversight (failure) with “authority?”

By: melyssa

melyssa — Thu, 05 Nov 2009 19:25:15 +0000

I'm trying to think about what "services" I get here in Marion County that are so great as compared to a rural or surrounding country where my taxes (and the local crime rate) would be considerably lower.

Let's see. I don't go to the library because I have high speed wireless internet and a mobile Macbook. I don't need the library, yet I am paying for a boondoggle of a construction project that went 3x over budget.

I don't have kids, so I don't benefit from sending them to one of the poorest performing school systems in the country -- IPS.

If I did have kids and lived where I do, I would have to pay separate tuition for them to get a minimally decent education at a private school.

And, last I checked I live in one of the country's top crime ridden cities.

Tell me again please what I'm getting for my tax dollars?

And if anyone thinks that Wishard won't tap our collateral (homes) when they go way over budget on construction (and they will), I've got some swamp land for you.

By: Think Again

Think Again — Thu, 05 Nov 2009 10:29:09 +0000

Matt has a point. But Wishard was out there full-on. Who didn't know there was a referendum?

If folks didn't know, then I'm not certain they should've voted.

The referendum question on the ballot was a love letter. No doubt. But it was approved by the authorities who oversee that issue.

Again--take it to the legislature.

And good luck with that group of Village Idiots.

By: IndyAries

IndyAries — Thu, 05 Nov 2009 10:23:52 +0000

Odd that people are shocked that government would act immorally or illegally.

By: Taxpayer 834512

Taxpayer 834512 — Thu, 05 Nov 2009 10:21:45 +0000

Kenly(sp?) “out in front”. My understanding (correct me if I'm wrong), was that he introduced the amendment, wording, whatever it's called for the referendum into the assembly along with Bill Crawford.

By: John Doe

John Doe — Thu, 05 Nov 2009 08:52:37 +0000

“More whining and complaining from Melyssa. If you are that unhappy and overtaxed. please move to some rural county where there are low taxes..[also no services] There are lots of men there who would like to be punished and humiliated.”

You don't have to move to a “rural county” where there are “no services” for lower taxes. Move in almost any county surrounding Marion Co. and I bet your taxes will drop at least 10%, maybe even 25%. My guess is that a few counties your taxes will drop by almost 50%. Plenty of services in other areas as well. Hell, even the once distinctively Indy businesses have opened up second or third locations in Greenwood/Carmel areas. Some of those areas even have their own distinct businesses that don't have an original Indy location.

By: Matthew Stone

Matthew Stone — Thu, 05 Nov 2009 01:55:41 +0000

Even though the legislature screwed up mainly by not reading the amendments to the budget that were slipped in at the last minute, that doesn't discredit the media with extremely one sided coverage and government officials using taxpayer supported methods to promote a political message.

Personally, I'm sick of the defense of “Well, it's legal.” Yeah, how HHC promoted this was legal (arguably, not how the mayor and IUPUI's chancellor promoted it). It's also legal for the school's to promote their referendums with taxpayer funded avenues too. It's also legal for the Republicans to re-district before the 2010 census is known. But just because all of these are legal doesn't make it right.

By: Matthew Stone

Matthew Stone — Thu, 05 Nov 2009 01:50:43 +0000

I love how a Democrat is employing the same “You're either with us or against us”/if you don't like it then you can GET OUT methodology as George W. Bush.

By: Fact Checker

Fact Checker — Thu, 05 Nov 2009 01:45:21 +0000

More whining and complaining from Melyssa. If you are that unhappy and overtaxed. please move to some rural county where there are low taxes..[also no services] There are lots of men there who would like to be punished and humiliated.