Why should I give up my dream?

It's not just Marion county elites getting rich off Marion county taxpayers, a lot of them live up in Hamilton County.”

This will never end. I once thought like you, that people need to have a “home.” I believe this comes from the US governments push that people own land so:
#1: The lending/consumer debt industrial complex will work. Homes are massive debt loads for most people, especially since all those $70-$100K/year factory jobs are gone for the non-college educated types.
#2: This helps with taxation of people more so than if most folks just rented smaller living spaces.

My whole family lives here in central Indiana. However, after traveling out west, I know that major cities could face the worse of the coming crash. A major focus of mine is to pay off my home ASAP, save all that interest I would pay to a bank and put it in my bank account, and have enough money saved to be able to up and move to more stable/better areas if need be. Right now things aren't to that point, so I am comfortable staying here. However, there is no way I would every move to Indy/Marion Co. since I don't have to.

It doesn't matter that all those elites live outside Marion Co. Marion Co. is where the money is, it is where the politics are played. Until Marion Co./Indy resembles Detroit, people who have a desire to get rich on the backs of taxpayers will likely turn to Marion Co. vs. any of the other surrounding counties.

Why should I give up my dream?

It's not just Marion county elites getting rich off Marion county taxpayers, a lot of them live up in Hamilton County.”

This will never end. I once thought like you, that people need to have a “home.” I believe this comes from the US governments push that people own land so:
#1: The lending/consumer debt industrial complex will work. Homes are massive debt loads for most people, especially since all those $70-$100K/year factory jobs are gone for the non-college educated types.
#2: This helps with taxation of people more so than if most folks just rented smaller living spaces.

My whole family lives here in central Indiana. However, after traveling out west, I know that major cities could face the worse of the coming crash. A major focus of mine is to pay off my home ASAP, save all that interest I would pay to a bank and put it in my bank account, and have enough money saved to be able to up and move to more stable/better areas if need be. Right now things aren't to that point, so I am comfortable staying here. However, there is no way I would every move to Indy/Marion Co. since I don't have to.

It doesn't matter that all those elites live outside Marion Co. Marion Co. is where the money is, it is where the politics are played. Until Marion Co./Indy resembles Detroit, people who have a desire to get rich on the backs of taxpayers will likely turn to Marion Co. vs. any of the other surrounding counties.

I'm not telling you to do anything. I'm just telling you the decision made in on our end and why. You're a big girl. Last time I checked, nobody could tell you what to do, and rightly so.

Believe it or not, people have the right to voice their opinions and live where they wish. Not all of us decide to live based on politics. Sometimes people do so due to professional reasons, sentimental, and personal reasons too. I'd love to live in Boston because the city (and state) is filled with great history, even though I'd probably never agree with most of the politicians in that area.

As someone who's not set in stone in my position, I'd be a lot more comfortable with the referendum if HHC was doing this in an open and honest way, and that the media would give a fair shake to both sides of the issue. But HHC has rushed this through as secretively as possible, during a non-election year giving proponents a huge advantage, and with the huge support from PAC's and use of city property to promote the referendum, opponents of it just don't stand a chance at being heard.

I also find it funny that you are trying to make it seem as if this is a liberal vs conservative issue. In making that the downtown elites seem as if Gary Welsh and co are against them because of political reasons. I have a number of liberal friends who care for the ICVA and CIB as much as Gary does.

Why should I give up my dream?

It's not just Marion county elites getting rich off Marion county taxpayers, a lot of them live up in Hamilton County. Ir$ay comes to mind. I'm quite sure when you do your homework, you'll learn a big percentage of the people behind the Wishard referendum live up there.

Remember the arts budget? The woman who led the “Save Indy Arts” social media campaign owns Gracie Communications in Fishers (Hamilton County). She sure had a lot to personally lose (contracts) when Marion county taxpayers needed to tighten their belts. That's one of many examples of Hamilton County people who push agendas on Marion county taxpayers because they personally benefit. They are adept at using the sick and disadvantaged to do it.

Why wait for a socialist/liberal government to continue to slowly decimate the fruits of your labor to the point you have to flee to safety? Move _NOW_!! You, Gary, everyone else who is sick and tired of the Marion Co./Indy elites who keep putting their hands in the cookie jar just so they can driver around in expensive cars, and live in fancy, costly homes.

My mortgage payment went up several hundred dollars a month since this property tax problem started. And it will increase even more if Wishard referendum passes.

Abdul, if the referendum does not pass, Wishard can still build its hospital. It just can't use my property as collateral to do it.

How many more government spending increases can I endure before I can no longer afford to stay in my home?

Based upon the price per bed cost of Clarian's Carmel Hospital, the new Wishard Hospital would have up to 451 private beds.

Cook County Hospital (John H. Stroger, Jr. Hospital) in Chicago replaced a sprawling 13-building campus, whose main pavilion was opened in 1914. They spent approximately $626.3 million (including cost over runs to replace all the medical equipment) to create a 464 bed hospital that serves the same type of clients as Wishard. It open in 2002.

Now look at the Wishard plan. They plan to spend $750 million to build a new 300 bed hospital. THIS IS $123 MILLION MORE EXPENSE FOR 164 LESS HOSPITAL BEDS.

Don't forget by targeting 300 hospital beds for the New Wishard, they will be reducing their current bed capacity by 53 beds.

How can a low cost state like Indiana spend MORE for LESS in the best buyers market for construction materials and labor in our lifetimes???????