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		<title>By: pascal</title>
		<link>http://www.indianabarrister.com/archives/2009/10/track_the_teacher.html/comment-page-1#comment-30707</link>
		<dc:creator>pascal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Oct 2009 19:11:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rico,nothing personal just trying to point out that analogies with real performers don&#039;t work with statist, socialist, unionized bureaucracies found in poorly performing government schools. You have to unlearn the analogy.  So, Superintendents are not really managers or leaders.  Principals are not really headmasters (since principals have rarely mastered anything).  And teachers are not educators but only poorly trained instructors. Res Ipsa Loquiter, as they used to say where RES would mean today the pre planned results obtained by our captive students on any standardized test...those results are perfectly acceptable to our Legislature and have been for decades according to the plans of the Legislature. That is, reward teacher unions in exchange for money.  The only excuse for having government schools as an Indiana joke is that of student academic achievement.  Everything else for the student can be obtained at VASTLY less expense.  What sort of management would you expect from Superintendents with average job tenure of three years in a school system?  Even a real manager would have difficulty in bringing achievements in a government school to equal their expenses in only three years...if ever.  At least the UAW product was drivable.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rico,nothing personal just trying to point out that analogies with real performers don&#39;t work with statist, socialist, unionized bureaucracies found in poorly performing government schools. You have to unlearn the analogy.  So, Superintendents are not really managers or leaders.  Principals are not really headmasters (since principals have rarely mastered anything).  And teachers are not educators but only poorly trained instructors. Res Ipsa Loquiter, as they used to say where RES would mean today the pre planned results obtained by our captive students on any standardized test&#8230;those results are perfectly acceptable to our Legislature and have been for decades according to the plans of the Legislature. That is, reward teacher unions in exchange for money.  The only excuse for having government schools as an Indiana joke is that of student academic achievement.  Everything else for the student can be obtained at VASTLY less expense.  What sort of management would you expect from Superintendents with average job tenure of three years in a school system?  Even a real manager would have difficulty in bringing achievements in a government school to equal their expenses in only three years&#8230;if ever.  At least the UAW product was drivable.</p>
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		<title>By: pascal</title>
		<link>http://www.indianabarrister.com/archives/2009/10/track_the_teacher.html/comment-page-1#comment-28382</link>
		<dc:creator>pascal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Oct 2009 14:11:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rico,nothing personal just trying to point out that analogies with real performers don&#039;t work with statist, socialist, unionized bureaucracies found in poorly performing government schools. You have to unlearn the analogy.  So, Superintendents are not really managers or leaders.  Principals are not really headmasters (since principals have rarely mastered anything).  And teachers are not educators but only poorly trained instructors. Res Ipsa Loquiter, as they used to say where RES would mean today the pre planned results obtained by our captive students on any standardized test...those results are perfectly acceptable to our Legislature and have been for decades according to the plans of the Legislature. That is, reward teacher unions in exchange for money.  The only excuse for having government schools as an Indiana joke is that of student academic achievement.  Everything else for the student can be obtained at VASTLY less expense.  What sort of management would you expect from Superintendents with average job tenure of three years in a school system?  Even a real manager would have difficulty in bringing achievements in a government school to equal their expenses in only three years...if ever.  At least the UAW product was drivable.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rico,nothing personal just trying to point out that analogies with real performers don&#39;t work with statist, socialist, unionized bureaucracies found in poorly performing government schools. You have to unlearn the analogy.  So, Superintendents are not really managers or leaders.  Principals are not really headmasters (since principals have rarely mastered anything).  And teachers are not educators but only poorly trained instructors. Res Ipsa Loquiter, as they used to say where RES would mean today the pre planned results obtained by our captive students on any standardized test&#8230;those results are perfectly acceptable to our Legislature and have been for decades according to the plans of the Legislature. That is, reward teacher unions in exchange for money.  The only excuse for having government schools as an Indiana joke is that of student academic achievement.  Everything else for the student can be obtained at VASTLY less expense.  What sort of management would you expect from Superintendents with average job tenure of three years in a school system?  Even a real manager would have difficulty in bringing achievements in a government school to equal their expenses in only three years&#8230;if ever.  At least the UAW product was drivable.</p>
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		<title>By: Fact Checker</title>
		<link>http://www.indianabarrister.com/archives/2009/10/track_the_teacher.html/comment-page-1#comment-28351</link>
		<dc:creator>Fact Checker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Oct 2009 23:42:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>TA, you are correct.  DMM is my councilor and I live in Center Township.  Much of her district is in Center.  I like her and she has been a good councilor but......there needs to be some resolution to the current problem of her attendance whatever the cause.  I am assuming that it is a medical excuse.  Due to her superb advocacy for her district, I am willing to be patient but at some point I want represented on the council.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>TA, you are correct.  DMM is my councilor and I live in Center Township.  Much of her district is in Center.  I like her and she has been a good councilor but&#8230;&#8230;there needs to be some resolution to the current problem of her attendance whatever the cause.  I am assuming that it is a medical excuse.  Due to her superb advocacy for her district, I am willing to be patient but at some point I want represented on the council.</p>
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		<title>By: Rico</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rico</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Oct 2009 23:25:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I believe it would be unpatriotic to support such an anti-American president. I used to believe the office itself deserved respect.  Well, why should I respect the office if the man holding it does not?&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt; And how patriotic is it to make time for David Letterman, Golf, and Basketball when he&#039;s barely made time for his commander on the ground in Afghanistan.  He sits on an urgent request from that commander(one he hand-picked, incidentally) while we have the deadliest month of the war for our soldiers yet. All the while, our classless president still blames his predecessor for virtually everything involving the wars. (Hell, he blames him for everything, in true childlike fashion.)&lt;br&gt;My sentiments are exactly the opposite of Michelle Obama&#039;s:  For the first time in my life, I&#039;m ashamed of my country (for voting Barry in).&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;And several quotes attributed to Rush were pure fabrictions. It is still just your opinion that the comments he did make were racist. But your friends Jesse and AL agree, so you&#039;re in good company.  You must be proud.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I believe it would be unpatriotic to support such an anti-American president. I used to believe the office itself deserved respect.  Well, why should I respect the office if the man holding it does not?</p>
<p> And how patriotic is it to make time for David Letterman, Golf, and Basketball when he&#39;s barely made time for his commander on the ground in Afghanistan.  He sits on an urgent request from that commander(one he hand-picked, incidentally) while we have the deadliest month of the war for our soldiers yet. All the while, our classless president still blames his predecessor for virtually everything involving the wars. (Hell, he blames him for everything, in true childlike fashion.)<br />My sentiments are exactly the opposite of Michelle Obama&#39;s:  For the first time in my life, I&#39;m ashamed of my country (for voting Barry in).</p>
<p>And several quotes attributed to Rush were pure fabrictions. It is still just your opinion that the comments he did make were racist. But your friends Jesse and AL agree, so you&#39;re in good company.  You must be proud.</p>
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		<title>By: Think Again</title>
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		<dc:creator>Think Again</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Oct 2009 22:46:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hilarious, Rico.  You&#039;re patriotic and use slang or intended-derogatory comments about our president?  That&#039;s hardly patriotic.  You don&#039;t have to like him or his policies to be respectful......respect for the Presidency is patriotic.  Disrespect isn&#039;t necessarily unpatriotic, but it&#039;s a good start.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;As for El Rushbo, my ears are on loan from God, and I heard him say the completely racist things he said about NFL players.  If you&#039;ll scroll baaaaack, you&#039;ll see that I specifically said I didn&#039;t think he was racist.  But I am absolutely certain he&#039;s said racist things.  Perhaps because he&#039;s an entertainer and it gins up the audience?  &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;By the way, he&#039;s also a hypocrite, having railed against loose drug control policies, all the while he (allegedly) heavily abused prescription drugs, allegedly sent housemaids to buy them illegally, and behaved badly when caught.  He escaped serious legal trouble, but he&#039;s living with a severe hearing loss as a result of the drug misuse.  That&#039;s punishment enough.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;And as for Mrs. M-M&#039;s council district, Wilson, you might want to check the boundaries...I believe she represents a great deal of Center precincts.  Could be wrong, but that&#039;s the way my eye caught the maps.  I can do that with my unLatin eye.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;And she owes her constituents some explanations.  For her sake, I hope they&#039;re good.  I don&#039;t wish her any ill will, but she&#039;s certainly found the wrong side of issues lately.  And excuse me all to hell, but sending a letter to indicate you&#039;re abstain...that&#039;s just, uh, dumb.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hilarious, Rico.  You&#39;re patriotic and use slang or intended-derogatory comments about our president?  That&#39;s hardly patriotic.  You don&#39;t have to like him or his policies to be respectful&#8230;&#8230;respect for the Presidency is patriotic.  Disrespect isn&#39;t necessarily unpatriotic, but it&#39;s a good start.</p>
<p>As for El Rushbo, my ears are on loan from God, and I heard him say the completely racist things he said about NFL players.  If you&#39;ll scroll baaaaack, you&#39;ll see that I specifically said I didn&#39;t think he was racist.  But I am absolutely certain he&#39;s said racist things.  Perhaps because he&#39;s an entertainer and it gins up the audience?  </p>
<p>By the way, he&#39;s also a hypocrite, having railed against loose drug control policies, all the while he (allegedly) heavily abused prescription drugs, allegedly sent housemaids to buy them illegally, and behaved badly when caught.  He escaped serious legal trouble, but he&#39;s living with a severe hearing loss as a result of the drug misuse.  That&#39;s punishment enough.</p>
<p>And as for Mrs. M-M&#39;s council district, Wilson, you might want to check the boundaries&#8230;I believe she represents a great deal of Center precincts.  Could be wrong, but that&#39;s the way my eye caught the maps.  I can do that with my unLatin eye.</p>
<p>And she owes her constituents some explanations.  For her sake, I hope they&#39;re good.  I don&#39;t wish her any ill will, but she&#39;s certainly found the wrong side of issues lately.  And excuse me all to hell, but sending a letter to indicate you&#39;re abstain&#8230;that&#39;s just, uh, dumb.</p>
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		<title>By: Rico</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rico</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Oct 2009 21:29:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You actually stated last week that you didn&#039;t call Rush a racist when you did exactly that on a different post from the same day.  So I stand by my assertion that you have a selective memory.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I am not an angry person by nature. But I am a patriotic American, so of course I get angry when I see folks you hold in high regard trashing our country.  A lot of us are angry out here at President ACORN and his minions trying to &#039;transform&#039; our nation into their version of a socialistic utopia. And we&#039;re angry at the Minton-McNeil&#039;s of the world not being held to account.  There&#039;s a lot of anger out there to go around. And folks are getting angrier by the day.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You actually stated last week that you didn&#39;t call Rush a racist when you did exactly that on a different post from the same day.  So I stand by my assertion that you have a selective memory.</p>
<p>I am not an angry person by nature. But I am a patriotic American, so of course I get angry when I see folks you hold in high regard trashing our country.  A lot of us are angry out here at President ACORN and his minions trying to &#39;transform&#39; our nation into their version of a socialistic utopia. And we&#39;re angry at the Minton-McNeil&#39;s of the world not being held to account.  There&#39;s a lot of anger out there to go around. And folks are getting angrier by the day.</p>
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		<title>By: Fact Checker</title>
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		<dc:creator>Fact Checker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Oct 2009 20:51:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And anyone who is on here on a regular basis knows that your are rude, crude and off your medication.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And anyone who is on here on a regular basis knows that your are rude, crude and off your medication.</p>
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		<title>By: Think Again</title>
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		<dc:creator>Think Again</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Oct 2009 18:19:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s not a short memory, Rico. It&#039;s a consistent advocacy for kids and teachers, and pretty consistent against layers of administration. I have more than a passing knowledge of this arena.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;But believe whatever you wish.  Clearly you walk through life angry.  Words mean a great deal  to me, too.  So try this one on for size:&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Stifle.  Yourself.  (That&#039;s really two words)&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I don&#039;t know you either.  Can&#039;t say whether I&#039;d want to.  But it&#039;s pretty clear someone crapped in your mess kit at one time or another.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#39;s not a short memory, Rico. It&#39;s a consistent advocacy for kids and teachers, and pretty consistent against layers of administration. I have more than a passing knowledge of this arena.</p>
<p>But believe whatever you wish.  Clearly you walk through life angry.  Words mean a great deal  to me, too.  So try this one on for size:</p>
<p>Stifle.  Yourself.  (That&#39;s really two words)</p>
<p>I don&#39;t know you either.  Can&#39;t say whether I&#39;d want to.  But it&#39;s pretty clear someone crapped in your mess kit at one time or another.</p>
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		<title>By: Rico</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rico</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Oct 2009 15:03:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t know you, TA.  For that, I am grateful.  Words mean things (to some of us). I based my post on your very words on previous posts here. What a short, selective memory you have.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#39;t know you, TA.  For that, I am grateful.  Words mean things (to some of us). I based my post on your very words on previous posts here. What a short, selective memory you have.</p>
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		<title>By: Dave Wene</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dave Wene</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Oct 2009 13:41:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A potential negative effect is that Schools of Education will begin doing all they can in order to get their graduates into those schools where the children are already successful.  To do this they will partner with those school systems and have their students do their in class training there etc. (Rich suburban districts)  &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;And the poor districts will be avoided.  &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;(The rich get richer and the poor get poorer.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A potential negative effect is that Schools of Education will begin doing all they can in order to get their graduates into those schools where the children are already successful.  To do this they will partner with those school systems and have their students do their in class training there etc. (Rich suburban districts)  </p>
<p>And the poor districts will be avoided.  </p>
<p>(The rich get richer and the poor get poorer.)</p>
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