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The Taxman Cometh

Property taxes are due today.   If you’re in Marion County you’re paying your 2008 reconciliation bill.   Although 65% of property taxpayers saw either a decrease or no change in their property tax bills, 35%  saw an increase.

And while I don’t think repealing property taxes will work, I firmly believe that if you want to pay less taxes, you need to have less government.   There are more than 60 taxing units in Marion County.

Schools obviously take up the biggest chunk of your tax bill,  they are followed by township government which is about another 16%.

Remember that when you’re writing your check today.

  • pascal

    Why call them schools? It is like calling a killing place a clinic.

  • http://www.ogdenonpolitics.com/ Paul K. Ogden

    It is the final 2008 bill, but it is actually for 2007 taxes. We have yet to pay any 2008 property taxes. Treasurer Rodman is talking about doing one lump Bill for 2008 Pay 2009 taxes in November. All hell will break loose if he does that.

  • Puzzled

    Strangely enough, while my overall taxes increased, my taxes for IPS went down $147. I dont really understand that. Paul is correct. The taxes due today only finish paying for 2007. We have yet to pay a penny for 2008. Treasurer Rodman has no idea what to do or how to handle that. That was evidenced by the incomprehensible letter he wrote to accompany this reconciliation bill. I have yet to talk to anyone who could understand the jibberish he wrote in that letter. That may have been intentional so that the taxpayers had no idea what a mess things are or perhaps he just does not know how to communicate in writing.

  • Nick

    When everyone gets upset about the property taxes, they should remember who is responsible for killing ALL of the Kernan Shepard local government reform measures this last session.

    Oh yeah, that is the problem, no one is accountable by design.

  • Shorebreak

    They should also remember who pushed a 1% property tax cap with ZERO plans to prepare municipalities and local governments for the massive revenue losses and the chaos that will result when critical services are curtailed or reduced to ineffective levels.

    Wait and see. Once the caps kick in, our saviors in government will claim “I told you so – you should have paid attention and supported KS before things got bad – now we'll offer it as a gift, and we promise that everyone will live happily ever after”. And once it happoens, all local representation and voting will be gone and all citizens in Indiana will face the decisions of appointed county councils rather than the decisions of leaders who are chosen by the people.

  • Dave

    Market value= transaction. Assessment= opinion on market history, much of which is 3+ years old by the time you receive your bill. Let's debate the 06 World Series or poinsettia arrangement for the holiday set of the Today Show while we're at it. Ask your favorite lawyer if they've ever filed an unspecified lien (hint: they don't exist except in the make believe world of government's constitutional malpractice- just because they “say so”?!?). And back to the variability of opinions on market history known as “assessments;” does anyone believe you can cap a variable (ask your favorite mathematician, economist, scientist, etc.)? What's this about sending PT bills to churches / non-profits (which aren't supposed to pay PT)? Repeal & replace with a legitimate method of which there are several. It ain't rocket science unless you're building rockets. We need top-down, wholesale change.

  • wilson46201

    Center Township government funding is only 1.42% of your property tax bill. Of course, that's only for properties located in Center Township of Marion County.

  • Wayne Kirk

    I have spoken with several real estate clients and members of our community who have filed an appeal and have yet to get any direction. A couple of them are now letting their homes go to foreclosure because they cannot afford to wait any longer. What is going on in our freaking state if they can't get this job done? It appears we now have enough ammunition to move forward with the lawsuit by John Price and get to the bottom of this nonsense and stop taxing people's property!

  • Think Again

    1.42% for Center, huh?

    That's 100% more than it's worth.

  • Jack

    Several thoughtful comments but perhaps need to review a bit: legislature didn't pass government reform because a large percent of people simply did not want to lose things in their community–maybe okay somewhere else but not in my back yard; assessment values are generally below market price (sales price for comps) (yes we are experiencing a bursted bubble and what the market is for a particular property maybe anyone's guess) but talking to persons working in assessors offices throughout the state when someone really complains about their assessment just ask them would you sell for the assessed price –hell no! but the assessment is still too high—makes you wonder what the definition of “market value assessment” means; ask CA residents what they now think of Prop 13–the mother of their current crisis–sometimes you get what you ask for then wish you had not asked. The fall out from caps will bring many changes whether in education or safety or general services–bet by 2013 or 14 there will be a ground swell against the very things some people are promoting so strongly. Real easy to be an expert when not going to be personally held responsible (or liable) for end result.

  • Puzzled

    Even with the new higher assessments, most people would not sell their house if you showed up with a check for the assessed amount. Many states have property taxes based on market rate value and it varies from year to year…can you imagine the whining if we had that in Indianapolis

  • Nick

    Local government is not efficient and has no accountability.

    Entrenched bureaucrats are trying to out last Mitch and repeal property tax caps, which will make a mockery of the sales tax increase that was used to justify it.

    Taxpayers are being treated as fools.

    Its time to publicly broadcast the identities of these idiots and throw the bums out.

  • Dobie

    We have got to get caught up. It's ridiculous to be borrowing money and paying interest because we can't figure out how much people owe in property taxes.

    Probably the best solution would be to have people pay property taxes every 3 months until we get caught up.

  • Sue

    Totally agree. I'm also sure, Treasurer Rodman will wait until the 11th hour to inform taxpayers of the grand total owed, thus, adding insult to injury. They have us by the short hairs, either pay up, or, lose our property.

  • Sue

    Totally agree. I'm also sure, Treasurer Rodman will wait until the 11th hour to inform taxpayers of the grand total owed, thus, adding insult to injury. They have us by the short hairs, either pay up, or, lose our property.

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