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		<title>By: pascal</title>
		<link>http://www.indianabarrister.com/archives/2009/07/black_white_and_not_read_all_over.html/comment-page-1#comment-30679</link>
		<dc:creator>pascal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Jul 2009 04:07:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://indytaxdollars.typepad.com/indy_tax_dollars/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://indytaxdollars.typepad.com/indy_tax_doll...&lt;/a&gt;  Blogs typically hit on some story begun by a lowly journalist and then improve upon it.  This link is typical and it, and others, demonstrate that journalists lack the  talent to really do a good job.  In the case of the local paper it could be that they are under contraints or under demanded bias.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://indytaxdollars.typepad.com/indy_tax_dollars/" rel="nofollow"></a><a href="http://indytaxdollars.typepad.com/indy_tax_doll.." rel="nofollow">http://indytaxdollars.typepad.com/indy_tax_doll..</a>.  Blogs typically hit on some story begun by a lowly journalist and then improve upon it.  This link is typical and it, and others, demonstrate that journalists lack the  talent to really do a good job.  In the case of the local paper it could be that they are under contraints or under demanded bias.</p>
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		<title>By: pascal</title>
		<link>http://www.indianabarrister.com/archives/2009/07/black_white_and_not_read_all_over.html/comment-page-1#comment-24945</link>
		<dc:creator>pascal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Jul 2009 23:07:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://indytaxdollars.typepad.com/indy_tax_dollars/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://indytaxdollars.typepad.com/indy_tax_doll...&lt;/a&gt;  Blogs typically hit on some story begun by a lowly journalist and then improve upon it.  This link is typical and it, and others, demonstrate that journalists lack the  talent to really do a good job.  In the case of the local paper it could be that they are under contraints or under demanded bias.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://indytaxdollars.typepad.com/indy_tax_dollars/" rel="nofollow"></a><a href="http://indytaxdollars.typepad.com/indy_tax_doll.." rel="nofollow">http://indytaxdollars.typepad.com/indy_tax_doll..</a>.  Blogs typically hit on some story begun by a lowly journalist and then improve upon it.  This link is typical and it, and others, demonstrate that journalists lack the  talent to really do a good job.  In the case of the local paper it could be that they are under contraints or under demanded bias.</p>
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		<title>By: Taxpayer 834512</title>
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		<dc:creator>Taxpayer 834512</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Jul 2009 22:32:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think any notion of Dan Carpenter being an &quot;Op-Ed&quot; writer is long behind us.  I&#039;d welcome someone writing from the other pair of shoes as often as him.  Or, I&#039;ll trade Cal Thomas for Dan Carpenter, straight up.  Better yet, Cal Thomas for the Ball State guy that used to host Washington Week in Review.  Ken Somebody?  Ayyee Caramba!   &lt;br&gt;.&lt;br&gt;Seriously, as much as I belly-ache about journalism, from looking at every source I could find in the course of the Presidential election, I thought the Star did a nice job.  They&#039;re not perfect, but I enjoy reading both sides and I believe they do that.  Ryerson is the ONLY journalist not ideologically rabid that acknowledged in print that some coverage of Palin was over the top.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think any notion of Dan Carpenter being an &#8220;Op-Ed&#8221; writer is long behind us.  I&#39;d welcome someone writing from the other pair of shoes as often as him.  Or, I&#39;ll trade Cal Thomas for Dan Carpenter, straight up.  Better yet, Cal Thomas for the Ball State guy that used to host Washington Week in Review.  Ken Somebody?  Ayyee Caramba!   <br />.<br />Seriously, as much as I belly-ache about journalism, from looking at every source I could find in the course of the Presidential election, I thought the Star did a nice job.  They&#39;re not perfect, but I enjoy reading both sides and I believe they do that.  Ryerson is the ONLY journalist not ideologically rabid that acknowledged in print that some coverage of Palin was over the top.</p>
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		<title>By: wilson46201</title>
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		<dc:creator>wilson46201</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Jul 2009 18:45:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, I&#039;ve known Indy4u2c (Jocelyn Tandy) for many years as a perennial (yet losing) candidate. She&#039;s probably lost more elections than anybody else in Indianapolis history! LOL</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, I&#39;ve known Indy4u2c (Jocelyn Tandy) for many years as a perennial (yet losing) candidate. She&#39;s probably lost more elections than anybody else in Indianapolis history! LOL</p>
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		<title>By: Indy4U2C</title>
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		<dc:creator>Indy4U2C</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Jul 2009 17:17:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>...as is typical of leftists, you imply and infer a twisted meaning of true words.  If you think &quot;leftist homosexual agenda&quot; is hateful, then nothing I can say will change your twisted views.  That term is an accurate and factual classification.  As for your wrongful assertion that I do not know any leftist homosexuals...Wilson has posted above in this blog.  &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Think Again, it&#039;s time for you to put thought into your posts, stop using buzzwords (ie &quot;hatred&quot;), and realize true facts and classifications do not constitute your buzzword of &quot;hatred&quot;.  It&#039;s time you lefty&#039;s stop appealing to emotion by using buzzwords, and try to address the true facts.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8230;as is typical of leftists, you imply and infer a twisted meaning of true words.  If you think &#8220;leftist homosexual agenda&#8221; is hateful, then nothing I can say will change your twisted views.  That term is an accurate and factual classification.  As for your wrongful assertion that I do not know any leftist homosexuals&#8230;Wilson has posted above in this blog.  </p>
<p>Think Again, it&#39;s time for you to put thought into your posts, stop using buzzwords (ie &#8220;hatred&#8221;), and realize true facts and classifications do not constitute your buzzword of &#8220;hatred&#8221;.  It&#39;s time you lefty&#39;s stop appealing to emotion by using buzzwords, and try to address the true facts.</p>
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		<title>By: eugeneblah</title>
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		<dc:creator>eugeneblah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Jul 2009 13:41:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Indianapolis Star is the single worst thing about this city.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;They support every big government scheme - including the new Colts stadium, Pacers arena, and airport - none of which were needed, all of which were make-work projects.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Their editorial board and reporting staff is overwhelmingly white...they never feature a person or a business in 46201, unless it&#039;s related to a murder.  Lilly, Scott Jones, SNS, ethanol, and other silliness from the business world is pumped up daily by addle-headed writers like John Ketzenberger.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;As for Nuvo (also overwhelmingly white), if it wasn&#039;t for the prostitution ads, the paper would not exist.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Indianapolis Star is the single worst thing about this city.</p>
<p>They support every big government scheme &#8211; including the new Colts stadium, Pacers arena, and airport &#8211; none of which were needed, all of which were make-work projects.</p>
<p>Their editorial board and reporting staff is overwhelmingly white&#8230;they never feature a person or a business in 46201, unless it&#39;s related to a murder.  Lilly, Scott Jones, SNS, ethanol, and other silliness from the business world is pumped up daily by addle-headed writers like John Ketzenberger.</p>
<p>As for Nuvo (also overwhelmingly white), if it wasn&#39;t for the prostitution ads, the paper would not exist.</p>
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		<title>By: Puzzled</title>
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		<dc:creator>Puzzled</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Jul 2009 13:17:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Your inaccurate and unwarranted attack on Rep. Andre Carson is offensive.  He is a hard working intelligent congressman and is getting noticed in D.C. for his his efforts.  Talk to people in the neighborhoods or organizations in Indy.  Those people know how helpful and hardworking he is.   I personally think he has a great voting record but I guess that depends on your point of view.  Perhaps you mean comments re: Andre were just an extension of your Julia hating days.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Your inaccurate and unwarranted attack on Rep. Andre Carson is offensive.  He is a hard working intelligent congressman and is getting noticed in D.C. for his his efforts.  Talk to people in the neighborhoods or organizations in Indy.  Those people know how helpful and hardworking he is.   I personally think he has a great voting record but I guess that depends on your point of view.  Perhaps you mean comments re: Andre were just an extension of your Julia hating days.</p>
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		<title>By: wilson46201</title>
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		<dc:creator>wilson46201</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Jul 2009 12:48:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Last year the Star fruitlessly endorsed young André Carson&#039;s opponent in the Special Congressional Election. Nevertheless, the voters chose André who then went on to win the regular election with over 65% of the vote!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Last year the Star fruitlessly endorsed young André Carson&#39;s opponent in the Special Congressional Election. Nevertheless, the voters chose André who then went on to win the regular election with over 65% of the vote!</p>
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		<title>By: Rico</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rico</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Jul 2009 06:23:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Matt Tully wrote a column a few days after the election recounting how Julia seemed to be hallucinating during his interview with her a week or so prior.  If the Star had been as diligent in reporting that fact as it had reporting the issue of Eric Dickerson&#039;s arrest (that was, incidentally, given them by Julia herself), perhaps the election would have had a different outcome.   But, the Star got its way, and  now we have Julia&#039;s idiot grandson pretending to represent us.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Nobody ever said Julia never contributed to center township. That was ages ago.  She was, in fact, a representative in the U.S. House for over a decade after that honor was bestowed on her. What did she do for our community the decade before she passed? Start demanding accountability of your elected, public servants and maybe things will get better for everyone.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Matt Tully wrote a column a few days after the election recounting how Julia seemed to be hallucinating during his interview with her a week or so prior.  If the Star had been as diligent in reporting that fact as it had reporting the issue of Eric Dickerson&#39;s arrest (that was, incidentally, given them by Julia herself), perhaps the election would have had a different outcome.   But, the Star got its way, and  now we have Julia&#39;s idiot grandson pretending to represent us.</p>
<p>Nobody ever said Julia never contributed to center township. That was ages ago.  She was, in fact, a representative in the U.S. House for over a decade after that honor was bestowed on her. What did she do for our community the decade before she passed? Start demanding accountability of your elected, public servants and maybe things will get better for everyone.</p>
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		<title>By: Think Again</title>
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		<dc:creator>Think Again</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Jul 2009 02:53:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So much fodder for comment, so little space and time.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Wilson said it very well...and I so rarely agree with him completely.  Wilson, didn&#039;t The Star name Julia &quot;Woman of the Year&quot; in &#039;95 or so?  I recall her reaction: &quot;Hell just froze.&quot;  Readers voted on that honor, or ESP would never have allowed it. She&#039;d just completely pulled the trustee&#039;s office from horrid debt, and instilled some workfare relief systems.  Julia Mae confounded her rightwing opponents with that one.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Indy4u2c, you&#039;re so full of crap it&#039;s oozing out your finger tips as you type.  You ask what you said that was hateful.  In the spirit you typed it, I&#039;m sure &quot;leftist homosexual agenda&quot; was not a love letter.  Although I&#039;m pretty sure you don&#039;t know a leftist homosexual, thus their agenda, if any, would escape you.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;But you&#039;re right about one thing: I probably should&#039;ve said something other than&quot;value neutral&quot; for the Star&#039;s editorial pages.  Which is what I was talking about.  Their opinion pages are close to 50-50, which I did say.  A complete reversal from ESP&#039;s days, when they were a national laughing stock.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;An editorial page&#039;s job is to motivate us to think.  The current page does that, with varied opinions, most of which I read daily, regardless of their viewpoint.  I learn the most from those with whom I disagree--they force me to reinforce my views or alter them with new info.  &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;A concept you might wanna try.  Or is it really that comfortable in your pigeonhole?  Throwing potshots at folks who don&#039;t follow your far-right mantra?&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Your world is shrinking, though, and that must be difficult. So mostly, I pity you.  And commend to your reading pleasure, one or two of Elanor Clift&#039;s columns, which are gems.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So much fodder for comment, so little space and time.</p>
<p>Wilson said it very well&#8230;and I so rarely agree with him completely.  Wilson, didn&#39;t The Star name Julia &#8220;Woman of the Year&#8221; in &#39;95 or so?  I recall her reaction: &#8220;Hell just froze.&#8221;  Readers voted on that honor, or ESP would never have allowed it. She&#39;d just completely pulled the trustee&#39;s office from horrid debt, and instilled some workfare relief systems.  Julia Mae confounded her rightwing opponents with that one.</p>
<p>Indy4u2c, you&#39;re so full of crap it&#39;s oozing out your finger tips as you type.  You ask what you said that was hateful.  In the spirit you typed it, I&#39;m sure &#8220;leftist homosexual agenda&#8221; was not a love letter.  Although I&#39;m pretty sure you don&#39;t know a leftist homosexual, thus their agenda, if any, would escape you.</p>
<p>But you&#39;re right about one thing: I probably should&#39;ve said something other than&#8221;value neutral&#8221; for the Star&#39;s editorial pages.  Which is what I was talking about.  Their opinion pages are close to 50-50, which I did say.  A complete reversal from ESP&#39;s days, when they were a national laughing stock.</p>
<p>An editorial page&#39;s job is to motivate us to think.  The current page does that, with varied opinions, most of which I read daily, regardless of their viewpoint.  I learn the most from those with whom I disagree&#8211;they force me to reinforce my views or alter them with new info.  </p>
<p>A concept you might wanna try.  Or is it really that comfortable in your pigeonhole?  Throwing potshots at folks who don&#39;t follow your far-right mantra?</p>
<p>Your world is shrinking, though, and that must be difficult. So mostly, I pity you.  And commend to your reading pleasure, one or two of Elanor Clift&#39;s columns, which are gems.</p>
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