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		<title>By: Bart Flies</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bart Flies</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Jul 2009 22:19:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>WOW!!!  This may have been the most popular post yet.  I agree with the first comment that you can never trust a politician&#039;s own polling, Republican or Democratic.

Independent polling is the only one you can trust.  Word on the street is that MIBOR and the Chamber have done polls lately and are completely neutral.  

Bart Peterson was still in the high 60&#039;s (go figure), while Ballard was in the high 30s.  That poll also showed that Ballard was absolutely getting killed in Washington Twp.

The other word on the street is that pretty much every prominent Republican - people like Jim Morris, PE McAllister, the Gov, Mark Miles, heck- even members of his own administration - are aghast at Ballard.  I don&#039;t think any of these folks will be comfortable just letting him ride toward slating. 

The question to ask is does the Mayor control the Marion County GOP apparatus?  Does he have a relationship with precinct and ward chairs who will vote in slating?  Does he have a relationship with donors?  If the answer is yes, then he has a fighting chance in slating. If not, he&#039;s toast.

In the general, he&#039;s facing an uphill battle.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>WOW!!!  This may have been the most popular post yet.  I agree with the first comment that you can never trust a politician&#8217;s own polling, Republican or Democratic.</p>
<p>Independent polling is the only one you can trust.  Word on the street is that MIBOR and the Chamber have done polls lately and are completely neutral.  </p>
<p>Bart Peterson was still in the high 60&#8217;s (go figure), while Ballard was in the high 30s.  That poll also showed that Ballard was absolutely getting killed in Washington Twp.</p>
<p>The other word on the street is that pretty much every prominent Republican &#8211; people like Jim Morris, PE McAllister, the Gov, Mark Miles, heck- even members of his own administration &#8211; are aghast at Ballard.  I don&#8217;t think any of these folks will be comfortable just letting him ride toward slating. </p>
<p>The question to ask is does the Mayor control the Marion County GOP apparatus?  Does he have a relationship with precinct and ward chairs who will vote in slating?  Does he have a relationship with donors?  If the answer is yes, then he has a fighting chance in slating. If not, he&#8217;s toast.</p>
<p>In the general, he&#8217;s facing an uphill battle.</p>
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		<title>By: melyssa</title>
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		<dc:creator>melyssa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Jul 2009 10:26:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I know one thing...Abdul will emerge from the next election cycle unscathed! LOL!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I know one thing&#8230;Abdul will emerge from the next election cycle unscathed! LOL!</p>
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		<title>By: joneaster</title>
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		<dc:creator>joneaster</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Jul 2009 08:00:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Apologize for the typo...4th paragraph &quot;SHOULD&quot; not &quot;SHULD&quot;</description>
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		<title>By: joneaster</title>
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		<dc:creator>joneaster</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Jul 2009 07:58:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, a unified Democratic Party should be able to beat Greg Ballard in 2011.  However, we are Democrats and we still have two years and lots of mess to step in between now and then.  &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;The Democratic candidates that seem to be the most serious so far are...in alpha order...Jose Evans, Joe Hogsett, and Melina Kennedy.  There are other names out there, but they have separate issues.  Joe and Melina have been making the rounds for at least the last six months.  Jose is just getting moving.  I have also already seen the party faithful starting to gel around candidates on both sides.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;If it&#039;s a Joe vs. Melina race, I think one or the other will make it nice and simple for the other.  It goes to slating...one wins and one goes home.  I also think the party comes back together nicely and neatly.  Jose Evans&#039; plans are a little more up in the air.  I&#039;m not sure if he would stay in the race after slating or not.  The vast majority of folks going to vote in a party primary for a municipal election are going to be the plugged in party voters.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;That leaves, in my view, a very good Democratic candidate up against Ballard...who I don&#039;t think will &quot;pull a Palin&quot; or drop out of the race.  I&#039;m not as convinced as Abdul that he will get through the primary season unscathed.  Shuld a renegade Republican with some money run on a similar platform that Ballard did in 2007, I think they can probably pull enough votes to beat Ballard in a primary or at least take a chunk out of him.  &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;That may leave a weakened Ballard up against an electorate in Marion County that&#039;s probably +5-10 points Democratic now.  If I were Ballard, I&#039;d be working the backrooms to make sure that I&#039;m free and clear in the Primary.  He&#039;s going to need all the resources that he can get even if he makes it through the primary unscathed.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Who knows though?  For politicos, it should be an interesting two years!  Just thinking out loud here.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, a unified Democratic Party should be able to beat Greg Ballard in 2011.  However, we are Democrats and we still have two years and lots of mess to step in between now and then.  </p>
<p>The Democratic candidates that seem to be the most serious so far are&#8230;in alpha order&#8230;Jose Evans, Joe Hogsett, and Melina Kennedy.  There are other names out there, but they have separate issues.  Joe and Melina have been making the rounds for at least the last six months.  Jose is just getting moving.  I have also already seen the party faithful starting to gel around candidates on both sides.</p>
<p>If it&#39;s a Joe vs. Melina race, I think one or the other will make it nice and simple for the other.  It goes to slating&#8230;one wins and one goes home.  I also think the party comes back together nicely and neatly.  Jose Evans&#39; plans are a little more up in the air.  I&#39;m not sure if he would stay in the race after slating or not.  The vast majority of folks going to vote in a party primary for a municipal election are going to be the plugged in party voters.</p>
<p>That leaves, in my view, a very good Democratic candidate up against Ballard&#8230;who I don&#39;t think will &#8220;pull a Palin&#8221; or drop out of the race.  I&#39;m not as convinced as Abdul that he will get through the primary season unscathed.  Shuld a renegade Republican with some money run on a similar platform that Ballard did in 2007, I think they can probably pull enough votes to beat Ballard in a primary or at least take a chunk out of him.  </p>
<p>That may leave a weakened Ballard up against an electorate in Marion County that&#39;s probably +5-10 points Democratic now.  If I were Ballard, I&#39;d be working the backrooms to make sure that I&#39;m free and clear in the Primary.  He&#39;s going to need all the resources that he can get even if he makes it through the primary unscathed.</p>
<p>Who knows though?  For politicos, it should be an interesting two years!  Just thinking out loud here.</p>
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		<title>By: melyssa</title>
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		<dc:creator>melyssa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Jul 2009 05:26:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I know one thing...Abdul will emerge from the next election cycle unscathed! LOL!</description>
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		<title>By: joneaster</title>
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		<dc:creator>joneaster</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Jul 2009 03:00:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Apologize for the typo...4th paragraph &quot;SHOULD&quot; not &quot;SHULD&quot;</description>
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		<title>By: joneaster</title>
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		<dc:creator>joneaster</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Jul 2009 02:58:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, a unified Democratic Party should be able to beat Greg Ballard in 2011.  However, we are Democrats and we still have two years and lots of mess to step in between now and then.  &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;The Democratic candidates that seem to be the most serious so far are...in alpha order...Jose Evans, Joe Hogsett, and Melina Kennedy.  There are other names out there, but they have separate issues.  Joe and Melina have been making the rounds for at least the last six months.  Jose is just getting moving.  I have also already seen the party faithful starting to gel around candidates on both sides.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;If it&#039;s a Joe vs. Melina race, I think one or the other will make it nice and simple for the other.  It goes to slating...one wins and one goes home.  I also think the party comes back together nicely and neatly.  Jose Evans&#039; plans are a little more up in the air.  I&#039;m not sure if he would stay in the race after slating or not.  The vast majority of folks going to vote in a party primary for a municipal election are going to be the plugged in party voters.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;That leaves, in my view, a very good Democratic candidate up against Ballard...who I don&#039;t think will &quot;pull a Palin&quot; or drop out of the race.  I&#039;m not as convinced as Abdul that he will get through the primary season unscathed.  Shuld a renegade Republican with some money run on a similar platform that Ballard did in 2007, I think they can probably pull enough votes to beat Ballard in a primary or at least take a chunk out of him.  &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;That may leave a weakened Ballard up against an electorate in Marion County that&#039;s probably +5-10 points Democratic now.  If I were Ballard, I&#039;d be working the backrooms to make sure that I&#039;m free and clear in the Primary.  He&#039;s going to need all the resources that he can get even if he makes it through the primary unscathed.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Who knows though?  For politicos, it should be an interesting two years!  Just thinking out loud here.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, a unified Democratic Party should be able to beat Greg Ballard in 2011.  However, we are Democrats and we still have two years and lots of mess to step in between now and then.  </p>
<p>The Democratic candidates that seem to be the most serious so far are&#8230;in alpha order&#8230;Jose Evans, Joe Hogsett, and Melina Kennedy.  There are other names out there, but they have separate issues.  Joe and Melina have been making the rounds for at least the last six months.  Jose is just getting moving.  I have also already seen the party faithful starting to gel around candidates on both sides.</p>
<p>If it&#39;s a Joe vs. Melina race, I think one or the other will make it nice and simple for the other.  It goes to slating&#8230;one wins and one goes home.  I also think the party comes back together nicely and neatly.  Jose Evans&#39; plans are a little more up in the air.  I&#39;m not sure if he would stay in the race after slating or not.  The vast majority of folks going to vote in a party primary for a municipal election are going to be the plugged in party voters.</p>
<p>That leaves, in my view, a very good Democratic candidate up against Ballard&#8230;who I don&#39;t think will &#8220;pull a Palin&#8221; or drop out of the race.  I&#39;m not as convinced as Abdul that he will get through the primary season unscathed.  Shuld a renegade Republican with some money run on a similar platform that Ballard did in 2007, I think they can probably pull enough votes to beat Ballard in a primary or at least take a chunk out of him.  </p>
<p>That may leave a weakened Ballard up against an electorate in Marion County that&#39;s probably +5-10 points Democratic now.  If I were Ballard, I&#39;d be working the backrooms to make sure that I&#39;m free and clear in the Primary.  He&#39;s going to need all the resources that he can get even if he makes it through the primary unscathed.</p>
<p>Who knows though?  For politicos, it should be an interesting two years!  Just thinking out loud here.</p>
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		<title>By: Rico</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rico</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Jul 2009 23:41:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The local GOP is a joke!  I thought you should have realized that, Ernie, when they did nothing to help Eric Dickerson defeat Julia Carson, thereby sentencing us all to a Carson-for-life.  The Marion County GOP trades one a-hole (Mike Murphy) in for another (Tom John).  I don&#039;t include Mayor Ballard in this criticism.....yet!  I don&#039;t believe he&#039;s an inherently political person, and I believe he means well.  Not being a Democrat, however, I will not judge him by his intentions, but by his results.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The local GOP is a joke!  I thought you should have realized that, Ernie, when they did nothing to help Eric Dickerson defeat Julia Carson, thereby sentencing us all to a Carson-for-life.  The Marion County GOP trades one a-hole (Mike Murphy) in for another (Tom John).  I don&#39;t include Mayor Ballard in this criticism&#8230;..yet!  I don&#39;t believe he&#39;s an inherently political person, and I believe he means well.  Not being a Democrat, however, I will not judge him by his intentions, but by his results.</p>
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		<title>By: IndyErnie</title>
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		<dc:creator>IndyErnie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Jul 2009 18:07:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Melyssa if I though it was a &quot;rat-hole&quot; I wouldn&#039;t be a part of it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Melyssa if I though it was a &#8220;rat-hole&#8221; I wouldn&#39;t be a part of it.</p>
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		<title>By: melyssa</title>
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		<dc:creator>melyssa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Jul 2009 16:22:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ernie...sorry, at first I misinterpreted what you said.  I think you should speak up about what a rat-hole your party is.  Just like I spoke up about suffering sexual abuse as a kid within my own family.  It&#039;s my only shot at being healed from it one day!     &lt;br&gt;.&lt;br&gt;The reason?  The republicans have proven they don&#039;t have the stones to clean up their act from the inside. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;At this point the only Republicans I can trust  are those that align themselves with the Republican Liberty Caucus.  The rest outside the RLC are suspect to me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ernie&#8230;sorry, at first I misinterpreted what you said.  I think you should speak up about what a rat-hole your party is.  Just like I spoke up about suffering sexual abuse as a kid within my own family.  It&#39;s my only shot at being healed from it one day!     <br />.<br />The reason?  The republicans have proven they don&#39;t have the stones to clean up their act from the inside. </p>
<p>At this point the only Republicans I can trust  are those that align themselves with the Republican Liberty Caucus.  The rest outside the RLC are suspect to me.</p>
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