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	<title>Comments on: Pre-4th of July Follies</title>
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		<title>By: Taxpayer 834512</title>
		<link>http://www.indianabarrister.com/archives/2009/07/4th_of_july_follies.html/comment-page-1#comment-30442</link>
		<dc:creator>Taxpayer 834512</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Jul 2009 03:38:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m only happy withe the prospect of having Palin as our President if it meant replacing Obama.  Same reason I voted for McCain.  I don&#039;t like McCain,, but given his Citizens Against Government Waste record of zero pork for Arizona- I doubt if I&#039;d like some aspects of his foreign policy, but I don&#039;t think he would have spent us four times deeper into the abyss.  He was the only one with a shot at beating Obama.  &lt;br&gt;.&lt;br&gt;&#039;Quadruple the deficit of what Bush left us&#039; is from The Economist.  Not exactly a right-wing publication.  They were none too reticent about their enthusiam for then-Senator Obama in the course of the campaign.  The Samuelson figures were not his opinions, but stats he obtained, at least one being from the Congressional Budget Office.&lt;br&gt;.&lt;br&gt;I don&#039;t disagree that the crux of American health care&#039;s demise is from  insurance and hospitals, with a heathly assist from doctors and lawyers.  An incredibly powerful collective group.  I don&#039;t disagree that something needs to be done to leverage change to the status quo.  Given our incredible debt and deficit, I would argue the clout of the Federal govenment be applied to a test, or section of health care first.  Maybe emergency care, maybe preventative- I don&#039;t know.  I do know as expensive as it is to overhaul, it&#039;s imperative it costs not a dime more for productive families that are keeping our economy as afloat as we relatively are.  &lt;br&gt;.&lt;br&gt;I think the biggest problems are the apathy of our citizens and our disfunctional beliefs.  Soft landings for everything and everybody has never been societally sustainable in any civilzation.  Please- give me a historical l example if I&#039;m mistaken.  I wish it were true, but not at the present state of our collective behavior, evolution, motivation- whatever the heck our problem is.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#39;m only happy withe the prospect of having Palin as our President if it meant replacing Obama.  Same reason I voted for McCain.  I don&#39;t like McCain,, but given his Citizens Against Government Waste record of zero pork for Arizona- I doubt if I&#39;d like some aspects of his foreign policy, but I don&#39;t think he would have spent us four times deeper into the abyss.  He was the only one with a shot at beating Obama.  <br />.<br />&#39;Quadruple the deficit of what Bush left us&#39; is from The Economist.  Not exactly a right-wing publication.  They were none too reticent about their enthusiam for then-Senator Obama in the course of the campaign.  The Samuelson figures were not his opinions, but stats he obtained, at least one being from the Congressional Budget Office.<br />.<br />I don&#39;t disagree that the crux of American health care&#39;s demise is from  insurance and hospitals, with a heathly assist from doctors and lawyers.  An incredibly powerful collective group.  I don&#39;t disagree that something needs to be done to leverage change to the status quo.  Given our incredible debt and deficit, I would argue the clout of the Federal govenment be applied to a test, or section of health care first.  Maybe emergency care, maybe preventative- I don&#39;t know.  I do know as expensive as it is to overhaul, it&#39;s imperative it costs not a dime more for productive families that are keeping our economy as afloat as we relatively are.  <br />.<br />I think the biggest problems are the apathy of our citizens and our disfunctional beliefs.  Soft landings for everything and everybody has never been societally sustainable in any civilzation.  Please- give me a historical l example if I&#39;m mistaken.  I wish it were true, but not at the present state of our collective behavior, evolution, motivation- whatever the heck our problem is.</p>
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		<title>By: Taxpayer 834512</title>
		<link>http://www.indianabarrister.com/archives/2009/07/4th_of_july_follies.html/comment-page-1#comment-24714</link>
		<dc:creator>Taxpayer 834512</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Jul 2009 22:38:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m only happy withe the prospect of having Palin as our President if it meant replacing Obama.  Same reason I voted for McCain.  I don&#039;t like McCain,, but given his Citizens Against Government Waste record of zero pork for Arizona- I doubt if I&#039;d like some aspects of his foreign policy, but I don&#039;t think he would have spent us four times deeper into the abyss.  He was the only one with a shot at beating Obama.  &lt;br&gt;.&lt;br&gt;&#039;Quadruple the deficit of what Bush left us&#039; is from The Economist.  Not exactly a right-wing publication.  They were none too reticent about their enthusiam for then-Senator Obama in the course of the campaign.  The Samuelson figures were not his opinions, but stats he obtained, at least one being from the Congressional Budget Office.&lt;br&gt;.&lt;br&gt;I don&#039;t disagree that the crux of American health care&#039;s demise is from  insurance and hospitals, with a heathly assist from doctors and lawyers.  An incredibly powerful collective group.  I don&#039;t disagree that something needs to be done to leverage change to the status quo.  Given our incredible debt and deficit, I would argue the clout of the Federal govenment be applied to a test, or section of health care first.  Maybe emergency care, maybe preventative- I don&#039;t know.  I do know as expensive as it is to overhaul, it&#039;s imperative it costs not a dime more for productive families that are keeping our economy as afloat as we relatively are.  &lt;br&gt;.&lt;br&gt;I think the biggest problems are the apathy of our citizens and our disfunctional beliefs.  Soft landings for everything and everybody has never been societally sustainable in any civilzation.  Please- give me a historical l example if I&#039;m mistaken.  I wish it were true, but not at the present state of our collective behavior, evolution, motivation- whatever the heck our problem is.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#39;m only happy withe the prospect of having Palin as our President if it meant replacing Obama.  Same reason I voted for McCain.  I don&#39;t like McCain,, but given his Citizens Against Government Waste record of zero pork for Arizona- I doubt if I&#39;d like some aspects of his foreign policy, but I don&#39;t think he would have spent us four times deeper into the abyss.  He was the only one with a shot at beating Obama.  <br />.<br />&#39;Quadruple the deficit of what Bush left us&#39; is from The Economist.  Not exactly a right-wing publication.  They were none too reticent about their enthusiam for then-Senator Obama in the course of the campaign.  The Samuelson figures were not his opinions, but stats he obtained, at least one being from the Congressional Budget Office.<br />.<br />I don&#39;t disagree that the crux of American health care&#39;s demise is from  insurance and hospitals, with a heathly assist from doctors and lawyers.  An incredibly powerful collective group.  I don&#39;t disagree that something needs to be done to leverage change to the status quo.  Given our incredible debt and deficit, I would argue the clout of the Federal govenment be applied to a test, or section of health care first.  Maybe emergency care, maybe preventative- I don&#39;t know.  I do know as expensive as it is to overhaul, it&#39;s imperative it costs not a dime more for productive families that are keeping our economy as afloat as we relatively are.  <br />.<br />I think the biggest problems are the apathy of our citizens and our disfunctional beliefs.  Soft landings for everything and everybody has never been societally sustainable in any civilzation.  Please- give me a historical l example if I&#39;m mistaken.  I wish it were true, but not at the present state of our collective behavior, evolution, motivation- whatever the heck our problem is.</p>
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		<title>By: Think Again</title>
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		<dc:creator>Think Again</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Jul 2009 12:43:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jeff: just so you know, there are some pretty ugly consequences to some of us using our real names.  It shouldn&#039;t be such, but it is.  I rarely agree with Rico, but the anonymity of his posts does not influence my opinion.  It&#039;s the freaking internet, Jeff.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jeff: just so you know, there are some pretty ugly consequences to some of us using our real names.  It shouldn&#39;t be such, but it is.  I rarely agree with Rico, but the anonymity of his posts does not influence my opinion.  It&#39;s the freaking internet, Jeff.</p>
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		<title>By: Rico</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rico</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Jul 2009 21:49:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I no more hide in the shadows than does anyone on here who chooses not to use his/her actual name. &lt;br&gt;And I consider nothing about the abortion issue petty.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I no more hide in the shadows than does anyone on here who chooses not to use his/her actual name. <br />And I consider nothing about the abortion issue petty.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff Huffman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeff Huffman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Jul 2009 20:34:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rico, I was only correcting your use of Down syndrome for making your petty political point on abortion which I doubt you know much about either. And in your usual fashion you hide in the shadows and make your petty little attacks.  Good luck growing up some day. Looking forward to seeing you at Cocktails and Conversations on the 15th.  See you there.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rico, I was only correcting your use of Down syndrome for making your petty political point on abortion which I doubt you know much about either. And in your usual fashion you hide in the shadows and make your petty little attacks.  Good luck growing up some day. Looking forward to seeing you at Cocktails and Conversations on the 15th.  See you there.</p>
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		<title>By: Rico</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rico</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Jul 2009 18:22:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>...and when correcting my word usage, could you, at least, use proper punctuation?  I still got your point, but, as you have made me aware, there are many simple-minded folks on here who may not have.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8230;and when correcting my word usage, could you, at least, use proper punctuation?  I still got your point, but, as you have made me aware, there are many simple-minded folks on here who may not have.</p>
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		<title>By: Rico</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rico</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Jul 2009 18:17:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks, Jeff.  If the apostrophe negates my point for you, then I apologize I didn&#039;t cater to your pettiness.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks, Jeff.  If the apostrophe negates my point for you, then I apologize I didn&#39;t cater to your pettiness.</p>
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		<title>By: Puzzled</title>
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		<dc:creator>Puzzled</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Jul 2009 18:17:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dave, thanks.  if you cant trust your friends to tell you the truth, who can you trust.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dave, thanks.  if you cant trust your friends to tell you the truth, who can you trust.</p>
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		<title>By: Dave</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Jul 2009 18:07:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dear Puzzled:  Thanks, you&#039;re my best friend.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Puzzled:  Thanks, you&#39;re my best friend.</p>
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		<title>By: Puzzled</title>
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		<dc:creator>Puzzled</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Jul 2009 17:23:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dave,  you win the prize for the best overuse of trite, meaningless, and out of date cliches in one post.......can you give us the bottom line of that drivel you wrote and what you were trying to say?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dave,  you win the prize for the best overuse of trite, meaningless, and out of date cliches in one post&#8230;&#8230;.can you give us the bottom line of that drivel you wrote and what you were trying to say?</p>
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