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	<title>Comments on: If You Want Transparency, Open Your Eyes!</title>
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		<title>By: existentialstate</title>
		<link>http://www.indianabarrister.com/archives/2009/04/if_you_want_transparency_look_for_it.html/comment-page-1#comment-22000</link>
		<dc:creator>existentialstate</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Apr 2009 21:33:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My issue with the CIB is that as appointed officials they shouldn&#039;t be distributing tax funds. How do we hold them accountable? The CIB should be composed of entirely elected officials that we can vote out of office if we disapprove of the way they run things.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My issue with the CIB is that as appointed officials they shouldn&#8217;t be distributing tax funds. How do we hold them accountable? The CIB should be composed of entirely elected officials that we can vote out of office if we disapprove of the way they run things.</p>
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		<title>By: Jon G</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jon G</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Apr 2009 12:39:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Part of the deal with the bail-out of both teams should be that their &#039;raw&#039; books should be opened up to the public......yeah, like that will happen.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Part of the deal with the bail-out of both teams should be that their &#8216;raw&#8217; books should be opened up to the public&#8230;&#8230;yeah, like that will happen.</p>
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		<title>By: Taxpayer 834512</title>
		<link>http://www.indianabarrister.com/archives/2009/04/if_you_want_transparency_look_for_it.html/comment-page-1#comment-21985</link>
		<dc:creator>Taxpayer 834512</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Apr 2009 11:01:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mr. Kirk/CIB:  Will the Pacers and Colts open up their books to independent auditors?  It may seem outrageous to team owners, but so is an expectation of more funding when the paper says we have an 87M shortfall in state revenues.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mr. Kirk/CIB:  Will the Pacers and Colts open up their books to independent auditors?  It may seem outrageous to team owners, but so is an expectation of more funding when the paper says we have an 87M shortfall in state revenues.</p>
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		<title>By: Think Again</title>
		<link>http://www.indianabarrister.com/archives/2009/04/if_you_want_transparency_look_for_it.html/comment-page-1#comment-21984</link>
		<dc:creator>Think Again</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Apr 2009 10:21:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Excellent news, WK.  How cna we all see whatever information you get?  Where can it be posted verbatim?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Excellent news, WK.  How cna we all see whatever information you get?  Where can it be posted verbatim?</p>
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		<title>By: Wayne Kirk</title>
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		<dc:creator>Wayne Kirk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Apr 2009 02:14:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I exchanged voice messages with Bob Grand today.  In Mr. Grand&#039;s response, he promised me (I have the saved voice message) that he will gladly turn over all the information I request.  
I have made phone calls to Paul Ogden and others in our community as I want to make sure I have all my questions in order to present to Mr. Grand.  We shall see if we will get the answers we desire of if Mr. Grand and those in the CIB are just playing cat and mouse.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I exchanged voice messages with Bob Grand today.  In Mr. Grand&#8217;s response, he promised me (I have the saved voice message) that he will gladly turn over all the information I request.<br />
I have made phone calls to Paul Ogden and others in our community as I want to make sure I have all my questions in order to present to Mr. Grand.  We shall see if we will get the answers we desire of if Mr. Grand and those in the CIB are just playing cat and mouse.</p>
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		<title>By: Daw-g</title>
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		<dc:creator>Daw-g</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Apr 2009 00:08:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>lol @ Wayne Kirk!  Wayne, when you go for your visit at the CIB, let me know.  I&#039;ve got a new pair of Red Wings I need to break in!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>lol @ Wayne Kirk!  Wayne, when you go for your visit at the CIB, let me know.  I&#8217;ve got a new pair of Red Wings I need to break in!</p>
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		<title>By: Dave</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Apr 2009 22:25:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We&#039;re forever speaking with our hands and pointing in the right direction, while failing to move our feet.  So, here we are; but where are we going (you know, that trend thing)?  

The CIB challenge is also an opportunity in disguise, to do what&#039;s right and Constitutional in spirit; vs.&quot;legal,&quot; by obscure retrofit of vocational bias, lawyerly or judicial misapplication.  There is no better marketing opportunity for those involved, than getting this right.  It&#039;s time for a reality check; not more checks from working citizens, or increased taxes on their virtues and vices.  You don&#039;t need Mdme. Currie or tea leaves to know, that the days of marxist minor leaguing, muni-leveraging &amp; metro-hopping are over.  Socialism only appears to succeed &quot;on stage,&quot; until the curtain drops and the house lights are turned on.  Forget tax increases, finger pointing and complaining!  Act like the free market minded pros you claim to be, and just do it.  Convert your claims of benefit into tangible shares of ownership (SEC quality or better) that pay dividends to real live investors.  Getting this right is nothing more than the will to do so.  Surely those capable business minds can see the templated, future benefit of getting this right.  Green Bay is the standard, free market defined.  Every team and city wants the relationship like the Packers have with citizens of Green Bay.  Why not define Indianapolis &amp; Indiana with progressive, citizen centered policy?  Who wants more of the Detroit trend, didn&#039;t we vote that off the island?  How many more &quot;one time&quot; dome styled taxes can the citizens &amp; free market support?     

Management is too often mired in the &quot;serious business&quot; of status quo (reminiscent of a lecture hall scene in the movie AnimalHouse), and tail chasing recitation of &quot;how things are,&quot; vs. the ledership challenge of rebalanced policy; reconciled to Constitutional purpose.  The half-pregnant &quot;logic&quot; of public / private partnerships, is inbred, fee market cronyism; and not the free market capitalism of a sovereign people.

Leadership requires routine examination of how things should be; reconciled to the oath and citizen centered purpose, or spirit, of the US and Indiana Constitutions, the paradigm of public service.  These guiding documents are law and therefore inextricable from the duties of public office.  We need leadership- right now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We&#8217;re forever speaking with our hands and pointing in the right direction, while failing to move our feet.  So, here we are; but where are we going (you know, that trend thing)?  </p>
<p>The CIB challenge is also an opportunity in disguise, to do what&#8217;s right and Constitutional in spirit; vs.&#8221;legal,&#8221; by obscure retrofit of vocational bias, lawyerly or judicial misapplication.  There is no better marketing opportunity for those involved, than getting this right.  It&#8217;s time for a reality check; not more checks from working citizens, or increased taxes on their virtues and vices.  You don&#8217;t need Mdme. Currie or tea leaves to know, that the days of marxist minor leaguing, muni-leveraging &amp; metro-hopping are over.  Socialism only appears to succeed &#8220;on stage,&#8221; until the curtain drops and the house lights are turned on.  Forget tax increases, finger pointing and complaining!  Act like the free market minded pros you claim to be, and just do it.  Convert your claims of benefit into tangible shares of ownership (SEC quality or better) that pay dividends to real live investors.  Getting this right is nothing more than the will to do so.  Surely those capable business minds can see the templated, future benefit of getting this right.  Green Bay is the standard, free market defined.  Every team and city wants the relationship like the Packers have with citizens of Green Bay.  Why not define Indianapolis &amp; Indiana with progressive, citizen centered policy?  Who wants more of the Detroit trend, didn&#8217;t we vote that off the island?  How many more &#8220;one time&#8221; dome styled taxes can the citizens &amp; free market support?     </p>
<p>Management is too often mired in the &#8220;serious business&#8221; of status quo (reminiscent of a lecture hall scene in the movie AnimalHouse), and tail chasing recitation of &#8220;how things are,&#8221; vs. the ledership challenge of rebalanced policy; reconciled to Constitutional purpose.  The half-pregnant &#8220;logic&#8221; of public / private partnerships, is inbred, fee market cronyism; and not the free market capitalism of a sovereign people.</p>
<p>Leadership requires routine examination of how things should be; reconciled to the oath and citizen centered purpose, or spirit, of the US and Indiana Constitutions, the paradigm of public service.  These guiding documents are law and therefore inextricable from the duties of public office.  We need leadership- right now.</p>
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		<title>By: Taxpayer 834512</title>
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		<dc:creator>Taxpayer 834512</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Apr 2009 20:59:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;d have a hell of lot more sympathy for a city bus system that wanted, 15M, 47M, whatever figure over however long, than for pro sports.  And, I LIKE pro sports.  They&#039;ve just become unaffordable, with the song and dance you have to go through to get straight answers unbelievable.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;d have a hell of lot more sympathy for a city bus system that wanted, 15M, 47M, whatever figure over however long, than for pro sports.  And, I LIKE pro sports.  They&#8217;ve just become unaffordable, with the song and dance you have to go through to get straight answers unbelievable.</p>
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		<title>By: Think Again</title>
		<link>http://www.indianabarrister.com/archives/2009/04/if_you_want_transparency_look_for_it.html/comment-page-1#comment-21969</link>
		<dc:creator>Think Again</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Apr 2009 20:30:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Paul, where DO you get this crap?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Paul, where DO you get this crap?</p>
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		<title>By: patriot paul</title>
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		<dc:creator>patriot paul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Apr 2009 19:24:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Considering the Star&#039;s reporting of the weeklong nonstop shredding of documents from Mayor Peterson&#039;s document closet and hauled away by a waiting trash truck, lack of transparency is still a large issue. The only thing transparent is their ineptness.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Considering the Star&#8217;s reporting of the weeklong nonstop shredding of documents from Mayor Peterson&#8217;s document closet and hauled away by a waiting trash truck, lack of transparency is still a large issue. The only thing transparent is their ineptness.</p>
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