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		<title>By: Rico</title>
		<link>http://www.indianabarrister.com/archives/2009/03/suddenly_i_cib.html/comment-page-1#comment-21750</link>
		<dc:creator>Rico</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Mar 2009 21:29:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Be careful using logic on TA, Shorebreak.  Her head may implode.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Be careful using logic on TA, Shorebreak.  Her head may implode.</p>
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		<title>By: Taxpayer 834512</title>
		<link>http://www.indianabarrister.com/archives/2009/03/suddenly_i_cib.html/comment-page-1#comment-21744</link>
		<dc:creator>Taxpayer 834512</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Mar 2009 18:07:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We&#039;ll likely not agree on unemployment insurance as an entitlement, regarding percentage of funding, duration, or accountability when it runs dry.  But, fiscally &quot;severe&quot; as I may be, I&#039;ll back a whole lot more finite versions of it than I will building and operating sports stadiums. 
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Sorry to get the days of the week screwed up earlier.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We&#8217;ll likely not agree on unemployment insurance as an entitlement, regarding percentage of funding, duration, or accountability when it runs dry.  But, fiscally &#8220;severe&#8221; as I may be, I&#8217;ll back a whole lot more finite versions of it than I will building and operating sports stadiums.<br />
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Sorry to get the days of the week screwed up earlier.</p>
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		<title>By: Shorebreak</title>
		<link>http://www.indianabarrister.com/archives/2009/03/suddenly_i_cib.html/comment-page-1#comment-21742</link>
		<dc:creator>Shorebreak</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Mar 2009 15:59:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>TA - He&#039;ll keep the promise? By further indebting us? If I take out a loan and name you as the responsible party for repaying it, and I am the government, am I not increasing your tax burden? Just because you aren&#039;t getting the invoice today doesn&#039;t mean you won&#039;t be obligated to repay it in one form or another.
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And then there&#039;s that tax that&#039;s hidden in plain sight - also known as inflation. When the Fed decides to circulate hundreds of billions of additional dollars, and the Congress does not act to regulate or stop that destructive activity, it&#039;s an indirect tax on the people. When Obama issues blanket approval of these measures, he&#039;s taxing us.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>TA &#8211; He&#8217;ll keep the promise? By further indebting us? If I take out a loan and name you as the responsible party for repaying it, and I am the government, am I not increasing your tax burden? Just because you aren&#8217;t getting the invoice today doesn&#8217;t mean you won&#8217;t be obligated to repay it in one form or another.<br />
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And then there&#8217;s that tax that&#8217;s hidden in plain sight &#8211; also known as inflation. When the Fed decides to circulate hundreds of billions of additional dollars, and the Congress does not act to regulate or stop that destructive activity, it&#8217;s an indirect tax on the people. When Obama issues blanket approval of these measures, he&#8217;s taxing us.</p>
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		<title>By: Think Again</title>
		<link>http://www.indianabarrister.com/archives/2009/03/suddenly_i_cib.html/comment-page-1#comment-21741</link>
		<dc:creator>Think Again</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Mar 2009 15:21:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>David--he&#039;ll keep that promise.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>David&#8211;he&#8217;ll keep that promise.</p>
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		<title>By: David Myers</title>
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		<dc:creator>David Myers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Mar 2009 14:20:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can only see two taxes that could be raised without to much heat on those in charge.  Alcohol and a user tax. if they even look at the food tax, you will see the protest start again. Has anyone notice the price of smokes today? Wait still the new federal tax goes into effect tomorrow. And Obama promies no tax raise on the middle class or poor. Ha</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can only see two taxes that could be raised without to much heat on those in charge.  Alcohol and a user tax. if they even look at the food tax, you will see the protest start again. Has anyone notice the price of smokes today? Wait still the new federal tax goes into effect tomorrow. And Obama promies no tax raise on the middle class or poor. Ha</p>
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		<title>By: Think Again</title>
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		<dc:creator>Think Again</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Mar 2009 13:59:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Taxpayer, the Republican mantra on unemployment insurance, since at least 1972 when I started paying attention, has been a rough version of this:

Employers shouldn&#039;t have to pay very much for it.  There shouldn&#039;t be a huge surplus in the fund during boom times.  The receipients are lazy.

Now, you can deny this, but I can quote you chapter and verse, and cite specific senators over the years, who have said basically this.  And those senators were in powerful positions to kill changes in the structure of the UI Fund.

They were senators who had large manufacturing or service businesses themselves, and who were confidently in the pocket of the Indiana Chamber and the Indiana Manufacturers Association. The same party has ruled the Senate since the mid 70s, pal, and that&#039;s not good for any of us. Bob Freaking Garton...Ivy Tech&#039;s payroll pal, was president most of that time.  A professional public speaker.  My God, that&#039;s what we had leading us.  

We should&#039;ve beefed up this fund when times were better. And yeah, I know some recipients abuse the fund.  But I know several who don&#039;t.  My tax dollars are just fine helping them. Because the Fund, you see, is broke from regular employer premiums.  

It seems none of us can save properly--corporations or individuals. God forbid our Senate should mandate more premiums for a broke fund.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Taxpayer, the Republican mantra on unemployment insurance, since at least 1972 when I started paying attention, has been a rough version of this:</p>
<p>Employers shouldn&#8217;t have to pay very much for it.  There shouldn&#8217;t be a huge surplus in the fund during boom times.  The receipients are lazy.</p>
<p>Now, you can deny this, but I can quote you chapter and verse, and cite specific senators over the years, who have said basically this.  And those senators were in powerful positions to kill changes in the structure of the UI Fund.</p>
<p>They were senators who had large manufacturing or service businesses themselves, and who were confidently in the pocket of the Indiana Chamber and the Indiana Manufacturers Association. The same party has ruled the Senate since the mid 70s, pal, and that&#8217;s not good for any of us. Bob Freaking Garton&#8230;Ivy Tech&#8217;s payroll pal, was president most of that time.  A professional public speaker.  My God, that&#8217;s what we had leading us.  </p>
<p>We should&#8217;ve beefed up this fund when times were better. And yeah, I know some recipients abuse the fund.  But I know several who don&#8217;t.  My tax dollars are just fine helping them. Because the Fund, you see, is broke from regular employer premiums.  </p>
<p>It seems none of us can save properly&#8211;corporations or individuals. God forbid our Senate should mandate more premiums for a broke fund.</p>
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		<title>By: Daw-g</title>
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		<dc:creator>Daw-g</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Mar 2009 13:00:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So in other words no matter how you break it down we&#039;re all getting fraked...again...over sports corporations in Indy.  :^(</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So in other words no matter how you break it down we&#8217;re all getting fraked&#8230;again&#8230;over sports corporations in Indy.  :^(</p>
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		<title>By: Taxpayer 834512</title>
		<link>http://www.indianabarrister.com/archives/2009/03/suddenly_i_cib.html/comment-page-1#comment-21733</link>
		<dc:creator>Taxpayer 834512</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Mar 2009 12:35:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Besides gov&#039;t services I&#039;ve listed before, I imagine the near 10% who are umemployed in our state think unemployment benefits are more important than professional sports.  Tell your Indiana Assemblymen:  Senate:232-9400   House:232-9600</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Besides gov&#8217;t services I&#8217;ve listed before, I imagine the near 10% who are umemployed in our state think unemployment benefits are more important than professional sports.  Tell your Indiana Assemblymen:  Senate:232-9400   House:232-9600</p>
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		<title>By: Paul K. Ogden</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paul K. Ogden</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Mar 2009 12:30:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gee, Wilson, a lot more people know me down at the legislature than you would think.  I&#039;ve been pretty active in politics. Certainly the entire Marion County delegation knows me.

Abdul, good reporting.  I didn&#039;t see you though addess the notion of a reorganization f the CIB, which some legislators have talked about. I would think that would be a distinct possibility.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gee, Wilson, a lot more people know me down at the legislature than you would think.  I&#8217;ve been pretty active in politics. Certainly the entire Marion County delegation knows me.</p>
<p>Abdul, good reporting.  I didn&#8217;t see you though addess the notion of a reorganization f the CIB, which some legislators have talked about. I would think that would be a distinct possibility.</p>
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		<title>By: Think Again</title>
		<link>http://www.indianabarrister.com/archives/2009/03/suddenly_i_cib.html/comment-page-1#comment-21728</link>
		<dc:creator>Think Again</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Mar 2009 10:23:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Today&#039;s not the last day for anything, Taxpayer.  Call and write and visit right up until Sine Die.

Most of them hate seeing you.  THey&#039;re too busy being wined and dined.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Today&#8217;s not the last day for anything, Taxpayer.  Call and write and visit right up until Sine Die.</p>
<p>Most of them hate seeing you.  THey&#8217;re too busy being wined and dined.</p>
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