Comments on: Ticket Tax, Anyone? http://www.indianabarrister.com/archives/2009/02/ticket_tax_anyone.html Indiana Barrister is the source for local Indianapolis and Indiana news, politics and commentary. Thu, 09 Feb 2012 01:17:00 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: Dave http://www.indianabarrister.com/archives/2009/02/ticket_tax_anyone.html/comment-page-1#comment-19417 Dave Sat, 07 Feb 2009 23:44:37 +0000 http://www.indianabarrister.com/?p=1664#comment-19417 One question taxpayers should have is with regard to the ownership of property (i.e. broadcast rights, logos, etc.) as it relates to public universities that are taxpayer subsidized. Taxpayers aren't getting a "return" on THEIR investment; "dividends" are instead paid to special interests. One question taxpayers should have is with regard to the ownership of property (i.e. broadcast rights, logos, etc.) as it relates to public universities that are taxpayer subsidized. Taxpayers aren’t getting a “return” on THEIR investment; “dividends” are instead paid to special interests.

]]> By: Really http://www.indianabarrister.com/archives/2009/02/ticket_tax_anyone.html/comment-page-1#comment-19380 Really Fri, 06 Feb 2009 12:06:49 +0000 http://www.indianabarrister.com/?p=1664#comment-19380 Abbie, Your missing the big picture. Most of during the 1950's-1990's viewed many sports on public TV, not cable/pay TV. Today, most basketball games, boxing, hockey, etc... are on some form of pay TV. Due to a variety of reasons, all sports has become increasing revenue driven. In turn, fewer fans. Most football games on Sunday will be pay (including internet) only to boost revenue. Abbie,

Your missing the big picture. Most of during the 1950’s-1990’s viewed many sports on public TV, not cable/pay TV. Today, most basketball games, boxing, hockey, etc… are on some form of pay TV. Due to a variety of reasons, all sports has become increasing revenue driven. In turn, fewer fans. Most football games on Sunday will be pay (including internet) only to boost revenue.

]]> By: Ron L http://www.indianabarrister.com/archives/2009/02/ticket_tax_anyone.html/comment-page-1#comment-19362 Ron L Thu, 05 Feb 2009 17:13:05 +0000 http://www.indianabarrister.com/?p=1664#comment-19362 If you look at the staffing levels of these venues, how many vice presidents do they actually need to run these facilities. If you look at the phone lists, you can see where the money goes. If you look at the staffing levels of these venues, how many vice presidents do they actually need to run these facilities. If you look at the phone lists, you can see where the money goes.

]]> By: Robert-NW Side http://www.indianabarrister.com/archives/2009/02/ticket_tax_anyone.html/comment-page-1#comment-19349 Robert-NW Side Thu, 05 Feb 2009 12:16:32 +0000 http://www.indianabarrister.com/?p=1664#comment-19349 Now that we have paid for the construction (which we didn't get to vote for), the continuing maintenance should appropriately be shouldered by those who exercise free will to attend. - Free will...something that has been denied to Marion County and most of the surrounding counties. - "Hats Off" to Morgan County !!!!! Now that we have paid for the construction (which we didn’t get to vote for), the continuing maintenance should appropriately be shouldered by those who exercise free will to attend.
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Free will…something that has been denied to Marion County and most of the surrounding counties.
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“Hats Off” to Morgan County !!!!!

]]> By: Sean Shepard http://www.indianabarrister.com/archives/2009/02/ticket_tax_anyone.html/comment-page-1#comment-19343 Sean Shepard Thu, 05 Feb 2009 07:13:08 +0000 http://www.indianabarrister.com/?p=1664#comment-19343 Shore: You're quoting from New Hampshire's HCR (House Concurrent Resolution) 6 which was introduced into their statehouse in January. It is actually a bit more forceful than the Oklahoma Resolution from last year (passed 98-2 in their house, deadlocked in their senate) and very comparable in spirit to a resolution one of our own State Senators is considering introducing. ... Think Again: this kind of stuff is regularly reported at http://www.libertyfile.com/ and at the Indiana edition http://www.libertyfile.com/IN/ ... Patriot Paul makes a very important point about things that should be private enterprise being undertaken by government who can then just pass the losses over as tax increases. ... Anyone do the math yet? Looking at the Colts only, around 60,000 tickets per game, 8 regular season games a PER TICKET tax of about $90 would clear out $43 million. But, $89 more per ticket might impact attendance so those revenues might not quite be something to bet the farm on. ... Excluding interest and inflation, if you just take $750 million and divide by 8 home games and 30 years (which the lease isn't even for I don't believe) you get around $52 per ticket in taxpayer subsidized costs. If you add in just $20 million per year in operating shortfall (again - unadjusted) that's another $600 million over 30 years. Add in interest and whoah... We're talking well over $100 per ticket that taxpayers subsidize. Shore: You’re quoting from New Hampshire’s HCR (House Concurrent Resolution) 6 which was introduced into their statehouse in January. It is actually a bit more forceful than the Oklahoma Resolution from last year (passed 98-2 in their house, deadlocked in their senate) and very comparable in spirit to a resolution one of our own State Senators is considering introducing.
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Think Again: this kind of stuff is regularly reported at http://www.libertyfile.com/ and at the Indiana edition http://www.libertyfile.com/IN/
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Patriot Paul makes a very important point about things that should be private enterprise being undertaken by government who can then just pass the losses over as tax increases.
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Anyone do the math yet? Looking at the Colts only, around 60,000 tickets per game, 8 regular season games a PER TICKET tax of about $90 would clear out $43 million. But, $89 more per ticket might impact attendance so those revenues might not quite be something to bet the farm on.
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Excluding interest and inflation, if you just take $750 million and divide by 8 home games and 30 years (which the lease isn’t even for I don’t believe) you get around $52 per ticket in taxpayer subsidized costs. If you add in just $20 million per year in operating shortfall (again – unadjusted) that’s another $600 million over 30 years. Add in interest and whoah… We’re talking well over $100 per ticket that taxpayers subsidize.

]]> By: BigDawg65 http://www.indianabarrister.com/archives/2009/02/ticket_tax_anyone.html/comment-page-1#comment-19336 BigDawg65 Thu, 05 Feb 2009 02:07:56 +0000 http://www.indianabarrister.com/?p=1664#comment-19336 I also agree with the ticket tax yet I think there are already two. One paid when you buy the ticket now and another that is a subsidized amount on each ticket paid by us the taxpayer. How about a way to not only fix this issue but most of the issues in Marion County and our state. Require all not for profits in Indiana including church's but excluding government buildings that have a property value over $500,000 to pay full property taxes like all other business's in out state. In regards to the Oil Can maybe an extra tax on the Lucas Suite and Irsay's pigskin flooring and $2000 toilet? I have been to one game and doubt I will go back. Peace I also agree with the ticket tax yet I think there are already two. One paid when you buy the ticket now and another that is a subsidized amount on each ticket paid by us the taxpayer.

How about a way to not only fix this issue but most of the issues in Marion County and our state. Require all not for profits in Indiana including church’s but excluding government buildings that have a property value over $500,000 to pay full property taxes like all other business’s in out state.

In regards to the Oil Can maybe an extra tax on the Lucas Suite and Irsay’s pigskin flooring and $2000 toilet? I have been to one game and doubt I will go back.

Peace

]]> By: Chris Spangle http://www.indianabarrister.com/archives/2009/02/ticket_tax_anyone.html/comment-page-1#comment-19331 Chris Spangle Thu, 05 Feb 2009 00:17:11 +0000 http://www.indianabarrister.com/?p=1664#comment-19331 It's a playground for the rich... So isn't it fitting that they should be the only ones who can afford to go? Let them pay their share, starting with Irsay. It’s a playground for the rich… So isn’t it fitting that they should be the only ones who can afford to go? Let them pay their share, starting with Irsay.

]]> By: John Howard http://www.indianabarrister.com/archives/2009/02/ticket_tax_anyone.html/comment-page-1#comment-19321 John Howard Wed, 04 Feb 2009 22:08:29 +0000 http://www.indianabarrister.com/?p=1664#comment-19321 Didn't some guy get arrested for hanging around the entrance gates to the Irsay palace awhile back? Didn’t some guy get arrested for hanging around the entrance gates to the Irsay palace awhile back?

]]> By: Dave http://www.indianabarrister.com/archives/2009/02/ticket_tax_anyone.html/comment-page-1#comment-19320 Dave Wed, 04 Feb 2009 21:47:30 +0000 http://www.indianabarrister.com/?p=1664#comment-19320 Speaking of boards, capital or school; who'll "feed" the thugs, when Atlas shrugs? Speaking of boards, capital or school; who’ll “feed” the thugs, when Atlas shrugs?

]]> By: Flipper http://www.indianabarrister.com/archives/2009/02/ticket_tax_anyone.html/comment-page-1#comment-19319 Flipper Wed, 04 Feb 2009 21:00:43 +0000 http://www.indianabarrister.com/?p=1664#comment-19319 Here is an idea. All city and county employees, except public safety are required to live in Marion County. How about all sports personnel including team owners, players and staff be required to live in Marion County and pay property tax locally.I'm sure this idea is wont fly, but what the hell. Here is an idea. All city and county employees, except public safety are required to live in Marion County. How about all sports personnel including team owners, players and staff be required to live in Marion County and pay property tax locally.I’m sure this idea is wont fly, but what the hell.

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