Aren’t “Constitutional crisis’” now devoid of concern? The President-elect has chosen not to produce whatever the heck a “real birth certificate” is? I don’t know that this is or isn’t a real crisis or what constitutes a real crisis versus a pseudo-crisis. I do know that if there’s nothing to hide, then produce the document(s) and let’s move on.

Taxpayer834512 and everyone else. Let’s get on with the business of recovery for the nation and stop the petty bickering on Birth Certificates please. I read all this crap daily which is only here it seems “blogland” and not of any concern to anyone in power like a Supreme Court Justice. No one seems to mention this birth certificate anywhere else.
The republican right wing can’t stand to lose an election and be in a position to bully everyone around. So we get a birth certificate flap. Some people will never stop.

It has beome become very clear to me. Team Obama has no regard for the Constitution or the American people. A group of lawyers dodging every loophole to cease power in this country. I find it interesting Obama has appointed Senators Joe Biden, who called him inexperienced to be president, Hillary Clinton, who raised the birth certificate issue during the primary and stated he was ineligible to be president as a natural born citizen, and Gov. Richardson, who commanded the Hispanic votes, each were former presidential candidates who lost to him in democrat primary elections. Each have standing to have him disqualified as president.

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Abdul – if you believe in the legitimacy of this “solution”, are you willing to put your money where your mouth is and try putting it into practice in real life? Here’s what you should do to show your readers and listeners that the solution is legal and effective:
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Drop your car insurance policy. If you get pulled over for a violation and get cited with failure to present proof of insurance, call up your insurance provider, order insurance, and then present it in court as evidence that you’re in compliance. See how far that gets you. Better yet – drop the insurance and then rear end someone. Pick up a new policy and try to use that one to cover your losses.
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You’ll soon find out that we’re being served a fat portion of smoke and mirrors in these justifications that allow Presidents to get away with breaking the law. So I would agree that a crisis has been averted. It’s been explained in a manner that the majoity of the population won’t object to, because it sounds good in a 15 second sound bite.
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But that doesn’t make it legal. Not now, and not in the past. Obama is violating the Constitution before being sworn in.

Newsflash! Alcoa, Inc. (NYSE: AA) has published a press release dated this date regarding an anticipated shortage of aluminum foil products in the United States.
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It is suggested that large scale users of this material begin to stockpile reserves to guard against running out of hat material over the next 16 quarters.

I’m a pretty inept far right-winger as I despise George W. Bush, haven’t voted for Burton in the last couple of elections, and espouse “tree-hugging”. I’d love to move-on & suggest our President-elect cough-up the documents and we can start.

So much for all men (women) being created equal. Most of us don’t have the luxury of changing laws to suit our whims.

Emoluments must only be for those of us who don’t sit in the big house and play by a special, privileged set of rules.

John H, you are 100% correct. Anyone who thinks that this situation is resolved needs to follow the instructions that I provided in post #5. If you know you wouldn’t have a legal leg to stand on without having the ability to change the law, you know that Obama has no legal basis either. He is clearly violating the Constitution if the appointment is approved – and so is the complicit Congress if they go through with it.
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And to Vangiangaurd – I think I’m gonna buy stock in Alcoa. It won’t be long before the tinfoil hat wearers outweigh the detractors. As events leading to a global system are rapidly increasing and unfolding – in full public view – it won’t be long until only the blind and the delusional refuse to admit what is happening:
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3snkmyYiWME

Taxpayer, the black helicopters are landing in your front yard in about an hour.

Also, there’s an excellent article in this issue of Indpls. Monthly on the John Birch Society and its assorted nutcases. Read it and weep.

Maybe. But, all it takes for them to take off again is to share his documentation with the American people. Win, lose, or draw.

I eagerly await GW’s list of last-minute pardonees to be published. It should be (a) lengthy and (b) infuriating.

We don’t have to go to Washington to observe disdain for the constitution. It is happening right here in Indiana and none of the officials who have sworn to uphold our constitution will do a thing. I cite article 2 section 9 of our state constitution which affects several legislators one among them namely Rep. Pat Bauer.
Section 9. No person holding a lucrative office or appointment under the United States or under this State is eligible to a seat in the General Assembly; and no person may hold more than one lucrative office at the same time, except as expressly permitted in this Constitution. Offices in the militia to which there is attached no annual salary shall not be deemed lucrative.
(History: As Amended November 6, 1984).
I suggest that the governor cleanout these many scofflaws immediately.

This, from The Wall Street Journal’s MarketWatch Web site:

Mr. Obama’s Eligibility to be Aired Monday at the National Press Club
FROM: WSJ MarketWatch

QUEENSBURY, N.Y., Dec 04, 2008 — On Monday, December 8, 2008, at 1:30 pm, the We The People Foundation will conduct a press conference at the National Press Club in Washington D.C.

The licensed attorneys who initiated lawsuits in PA (Philip Berg), NJ (Leo Donofrio) and CA (Orly Taitz), challenging Mr. Obama’s legal eligibility to hold the Office of President of the United States, will briefly summarize the facts, legal arguments and status of their cases. They will answer questions from the press.

Prior to the start of the conference, at 10 am, the Supreme Court of the United States is expected to announce whether it will consider applications from these attorneys who have asked the Court to delay the proceedings of the Electoral College pending a determination of the underlying constitutional question – the meaning of the “natural born citizen” clause of Article II of the Constitution and its application to Mr. Obama.

Robert Schulz will briefly discuss Mr. Obama’s response to the publication of his Open Letter in the Chicago Tribune on Monday and Wednesday of this week. For the reasons given in the Open Letter, Schulz asked Mr. Obama to: (1) immediately authorize Hawaiian officials to provide a team of forensic scientists access to his original (“vault”)20birth certificate and (2) arrange for the delivery of other documents needed to conclusively establish Obama’s citizenship status. Mr. Schulz will answer questions from the press.

“Under our Constitution, no one is eligible to assume the Office of the President unless he or she is a ‘natural born citizen,’” said Bob Schulz, Chairman of the Foundation. “To date, Mr. Obama has refused all requests to release his original birth certificate or other documents that would definitively establish his citizenship status and thus his constitutional eligibility.”

The Open Letter to Mr. Obama summarizes the evidence against Mr. Obama and the adverse consequences that would befall the Nation should he assume the Office of the President as a usurper.

“Should the state members of the Electoral College cast their votes for Mr. Obama in the face of such overwhelming evidence, and without verification of Mr. Obama’s eligibility, they would be committing treason to the Constitution,” said Schulz.

“Historical practice and Department of Justice interpretation have in fact permitted appointments of members of Congress to such offices so long as their salaries are based on the levels set before the relevant term of office.”
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Here we have it, folks! “Historical PRACTICE” and DoJ “interpretation” are all it takes to crap on our Constitution.
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Clearly, it doesn’t matter if the past PRACTICE was in accordance with the language, spirit and INTENT of the Constitution. And, anyone listening to Abdul knows of his disdain for our Constitution. This is an ailment that appears to infect most lawyers and politicians.
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Why do lawyers and politicians always look for ways to GET AROUND Constitutions — State and federal? What happened to their freaking OATHS to those Constitutions?
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All is well, as long as The Messiah gets his way.

Is this the reason James Carvel, a democrat strategist, suggested in September “if Obama is attacked by mainstream media,[meaning if the truth is told now about him], there will be riots [black folks]in the streets.” I asked the question back then, and I am asking it now, who will start the riot if Barack Obama is found to be ineligible to serve as the first black-skinned president under the U.S. Constitution? Natural born and not naturalized citizen. Is he Kenyan born, a British subject? Indonesian adopted Barry Soreoto? Later, When did he become an American Barack H. Obama?

If this is true, the racist Democrat Party has used this election and the black vote to seize control of the government after they screwed it up, and dumped the cleanup on the shoulders of an unqualified dark-skinned candidate with a extremely tainted past. American deserve to know the truth about their president. What’s new?

A reporter on the Today Show this morning, finally, [a MSM, NBC] has acknowledged the legal challenges to Obama’s citizenship before the U.S. Supreme Court. Mainly defining the term, “natural born citizen”, and whether or not he is eligible to be president. He stated we will have to wait until Monday for the Court’s decision

The pressure is on for valid proof to put this constitutional controversy to rest.