Abdul, you do not say how this map reflects the racial divides? I could not find the interpretation to support this from the sources. While the conclusion may or may not be accurate, most think the Hispanics put Obama over the top along with whites. To suggest Republicans start targeting and pandering to any specific group, including minorities, actually perpetuates a chasm and keeps an entrenched division going, instead of speaking one indiscriminate message for all. The problem with Rs., is that they lost their way, spent like drunken sailors, and became democrat-lite, and Bush reversed himself by getting into adventurism followed by nation building, something he originally campaigned against. The Rs. betrayed it’s base, which is why during the last 2 election cycles, both citizens and certain leaders claimed the Party left them; not citizens leaving the Party.
Jan.20th marks a new social and political era, where we can put aside this red-blue divisive junk, and we focus on problem solving. Unfortunately, both socialist Parties haven’t a clue how to do that.

Paul,

I am not saying the GOP should pander. What I am saying is if you look at the map, the only place the GOP is gaining gains is in rural, predominately white areas. Politics is about addition, not subtraction. The GOP needs to start adding quick.

Patriot Paul speaks the truth!

You guys can say whatever you want. As someone who studies this stuff pretty regularly, the GOP better start doing some major outreach.

Thanks Adbul. I saw this map last week and an Indiana version in the Star and it is the key to understanding the election and what the Republican party is faced with, must understand, and must address if it wants to move forward and stay in play.

The reality is not that one needs to “pander” as P. Paul suggests. Some would suggest though, that they spent this election cycle pandering to white, rural and small town voters. Some facts and observations, not really original:

1. There was a perception, crystallized in (but by no means was this the only example) Sarah Palin’s “I love visiting real America/pro-America parts of this country” (paraphrasing here) comments, that Republicans were the party of white, rural, small town/exurb voters. That was a connection on values, lifestyle, etc. that was particularly played up by Palin Another websites analysis of her campaign stops showed the vast majority of her capmaign stops were counties and locations that were overwhelmingly white population (the analysis compared all candidates demographics of campaign stops) But as set forth elsewhere, “whites” as a percentage of the electorate have declined from around 88=89% of voters in 1980 to about 74% of voters now, and fewer and fewer people live in rural and small town areas. So just on sheer numbers you can’t win on that strategy- real or not- that seems to “play to” white/small town/rural values voters.

2. Forgetting race, people in urban areas– substantially more of the country- feel Republicans don’t speak to them, and/or belittle them as “elitists”…. There are a lot more people in this country who are college-educated and/or live in large cities than live in rural and small towns. You can’t write them off as “elitists” or insult the intelligence of vast numbers of them with “Joe the Plumber” bits and calling someone a “socialist” when anyone who has ever taken a single college class in political science, sociology, or any number of other subjects knows what socialism is and what is isn’t (hint: progressive tax rate is not socialism). The more Republican supporters used this stuff without offering real ideas, the more educated people rejected it. I talked to 4 people at the Columbia Club of all places, 2 who live in Hamilton Co, 2 in Marion– white, college-educated, middle-aged professional people- ALL Republicans, including supporting, giving money, considered themselves Republican. All voted for Obama. 2 had never voted for a Democrat before. All were insulted by the McCain/Palin campaign including on grounds I set forth above.

3. 4 years from now the presidential electorate will have changed even more. All the current 14, 15, 16, 17 year olds will be eligible to vote, along with a small but not insignificant number of immigrants who become citizens in the next 4 years. Gone from the electorate will be those who die the next 4 years– most of them in the over 65 age group- the only age group of McCain supporters as a group… Those who don’t understand what this means will not move the party forward.

4. I don’t know if Palin is going to fade away as it seems clear that while a number of Republican-leaning pundits love and want to promote her, her fellow Governors and other Republican leaders want her gone yesterday. It seems the Pence/Palin side is gelling (we weren’t conservative enough to win!) and the Pawlenty/Crist/Jindal side who “gets” what I outlined above is gelling on the other side.

I love Bobby Jindal and there are probalby more of him out there. Smart, real smart. Young. Doesn’t talk down to people. Doesn’t bash or insult people who don’t agree with him. Socially conservative but doesn’t play the culture wars game because it will never win over young voters. Period.

So it’s up to the party to pick a plan, soon, and run with it.

The Republicans deserve every bit of what they are getting.
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In early summer 2007, as the Republican presidential primary debates began, CNN and the other major news propaganda networks put up polls to see who viewers felt won the debates.
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In every poll, Ron Paul won by a large margin.
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What did the corporate controlled media do about this information? Did they try to get interviews with Ron Paul? Did they talk about the poll numbers? NO! They yanked the polls within mere hours and began a campaign to paint Dr. Paul as some kind of kook.
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What did the Republican Party do for Mayor Ballard’s campaign? I recall that Tom John was over heard ridiculing Ballard’s chance for success just mere days before the election. I also recall that Ballard got next to nothing in terms of financial support from the Republicans, who were busy making sure Peterson’s pockets were padded.
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At Ballard’s victory party there were clipboards for voter signatures for each of the presidential primary candidates. They were all there EXCEPT Ron Paul. I asked the young republican in charge of the table where Ron Paul’s clipboard was. He stuttered and stammered and finally told me that if I wanted Dr. Paul in the May primary that I was welcome to collect signatures myself.
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(I guess it was too much trouble for the Republicans to put out one more clipboard that night)
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The conservative Libertarians are picking off more Republicans each year, leaving the party ever more weak and diluted. Had they listened to conservatives, treated Ron Paul with respect, they might have had a Republican president this year.

I think economics is making endless party wrangling as moot as Titanic deck chairs. There is sacrifice ahead. We do it now, more equitably, and with cooperation among all, or we wrestle in a ditch over a loaf of bread later. The sooner we stop economic madness, the sooner we return to the world in which party still matters. My poster children for madness are: giving banks & corporations money without equity stake & BIG strings attached, creating democracy from scratch in the Middle East, subsidized childbirth, wealth redistribution based solely on income, and off-shore tax shelters. We all have our own list. I’ve learned some of mine the hard way: stupidity.

Madeline Albright stated that activity by US-led coalition forces over Iraq that led to the starvation deaths of over 400,000 children in the 1990’s was a good thing.
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In early 2001, the Bush Administration began devising a plan to invade Afghanistan. Diplomatic negotiations between the US and Afghan neighbors – including India and several other nations – regarding war in Afghanistan were reported in Asian newspapers in the late spring and summer of 2001. The final invasion plan was circulating the White House in the forst week of September, 2001.
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Four years previously, the former national Security Advisor to Jimmy Carter published an extensive policy journal that recommended US military dominance of Central Asia in order to establish geostrategic control of Eurasian economic policy. He lamented that citizens of a free country who believe in liberty would never support aggressive military action, unless they sensed a direct external threat.
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That man was directly involved in partnering with Russia to build a hoighway to Kabul in the late ’70’s. He was also involved in arming and promoting militant Islam – in order to fight the Russians – when Russian tanks drove south on their new highway immediately upon it’s completion. That man, Zbigniew Brzezinski, is also President-elect Obama’s most senior foreign policy advisor.
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Obama’s Vice-President-elect Joseph Biden stated on Sept. 10, 2001 that the US would face a direct external threat that could come from the belly of an airplane. The same man stated recently that the Obama Administration will face a generated threat upon entering the White House. Brzezinski stated the same thing. Biden and Obama have also stated that they will succeeed in Afghanistan and pakistan where Bush has failed.
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The red and the blue colors on that map at the top of this page are nothing more than a facade. Window dressing. Icing on a cake. Propaganda. Behind the layers is a single party. One coin with two faces. A two-headed hydra. It’s a corporate financial entity that has used it’s control of media to usurp our government away from the people.
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The evidence is in the policy and in the uniformity of the players. Wake up, folks. The Bush Administration just promised to begin implementation of global accounting standards over US economic policy. Obama has promised to fulfill the goal, and he calls it good. Once we’re practicing those rules – outside of the control of voters and taxpayers via Congress – we have been economically usurped. Now we know why Habeus Corpus and Posse Comitatus have been eliminated. Our new president won’t be hindered by angry citizens as he fulfills his objectives.

Listen to Shorebreak…he’s right.

Does any of this red/blue stuff make any sense? If you take into account how much money Obama spent and the media backing and the grass roots effort that he had you would have thought that he would have won by a land slide, but he didn’t. How do you account for that? It seems to me that as close as the election really was (when you consider the above) that it would be very hard to believe these demographics and numbers and red/blue mumbo-jumbo. I dunno, and who puts this syuff out anyway? Should we consider the source? The media?

Shorebreak. Thanks for your post. Very enlightening and thought provoking.

How do you suggest the GOP reach out to minorities, Abdul? Perhaps by naming people of color to high positions based on their experience and accomplishments, and not on their ethnicity? Perhaps by eliminating racial quotas that perpetuate the racial divide? Or by eliminating Affirmative Action programs that tell minorities they are not as smart as whites, and therefore, need a headstart?
The black community has been disproportionately hurt by liberal programs. The libs have done their very best to break down the black family and force as many black Americans as possible to depend on the government to sustain life–robbing many of their spirit. In turn, Libs are guaranteed the black vote.
The same will be done to the Hispanic community. Their families, too, will be decimated. They, too, will grow increasingly dependent on government programs and will vote for those elected officials who promise to ‘take care’ of them. Unfortunately, the key to the Latin-American vote is to not enforce our immigration laws.
In doesn’t help that so-called black conservatives like yourself support liberal candidates simply because they are black. Not only have you disappointed conservatives by your choice, but you have let down the black community by supporting a candidate who offers nothing to improve their plight. In other words, even though you “….study this stuff pretty regularly..”, you are part of the problem, not the solution.

Re: “If white Republicans…”
A flag goes up whenever I hear this kind of racially loaded question since it calls for a racial answer (notice I said racial; not racist). Nevertheless, I thought we were trying to see beyond these antique racial structures and look at issues and content. Leave the racial maps to those racially minded.

Again Paul perpetuates the myth of the spendthrift Democrats with which I have to take exception. It is the Republicans – Ronald Reagan and George Bush – who ran up record deficits and doubled the national debt to nearly $12,000,000,000. It is the Democrats – Lyndon Johnson and Bill Clinton – who in the last 50 years produced budget surpluses. I don’t know where the idea comes from that Republicans are good with our money.

Agreed. However, big assists for “Clinton’s” surplus from the Gingrich/Limbaugh election, and to Carter/Clinton for the loan standards associated with “Bush’s” debaucle. Our disaster defies party affiliation.

Just once, Tom, I’d like to hear one thing Bill Clinton did to sustain the period of economic growth over which he presided. The GDP had been rising for five quarters leading up to his election victory in 1992. Of course, the media claimed it was the worst economy in 50 years, and the public bought it.

Then Billdo gave the American people the highest tax increase in U.S. history. We know where the economy went from there. Just weeks after G.W. Bush won in 2000, the media labeled it the ‘Bush Recession’.
The MSM will make every attempt to make our ecomonic future look immediately brighter when Barry takes office. All eyes will be on the messiah. It will be difficult to hide his incompetence. Since he’s demonstrated so little class up to this point, I suspect he will continue blaming his predecessor once in the Whitehouse.

To support my earlier comments, here’s footage that accurately describes Obama’s senior policy advisor, and his policy recommendations. FYI – the write-up is identical to my own writings going back to 2003 when MEFTA was first initiated by the White House. Obama policy is Bush policy. We don’t have a red and blue leadership. At the top level, it’s all purple.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T_Xlg_080-A

Rico, I think you right on this one. Clinton did ride in on the coat tails of a rising economy and claimed it as his own. Lets not forget that the dems in congress did nothing (actually voting against regulatiing F. May and Mack when others warned of impending doom-say conspiracy anyone?) to stop the cuurent mess we are in in regards to the bail-out situation. Lets hope BO can put together a team (oh, some of his guys are the ones that drove some companies and institutions into the ground) that will fix this problem. Only time will tell.

With all of this red/blue BS going around, I see it as this, people got sick of what they heard, and now they have fresh voices to hear. It’s only a matter of time before they get sick of the new voices and go back to the old ways. Same poop, different piles.

As Repubs we must stay the course. God has blessed the United States with our party. We are the only ones who respect life and the importance of God. You will see a new age of enlightenment with the Palin campaign in 2012. Our black and brown brothers and sisters will be absorbed by her common bond with them. She too is married to a person of color. She is a God fearing woman and a person dedicated to protecting the helpless. We are blessed.

I know some of you guys may not like the conclusion I’m drawing here but that doesn’t change anything.

This country is becoming more ethnically diverse and if the GOP doesn’t recognize that, the show’s over.

Deal with it.

Our ethnic diversity should be our strength, Abdul. Instead, it is used by liberal Democrats (through identity politics) to keep us divided.
Other than adopting liberal policies, how should the GOP ‘reach out’ without handing out? I would love to know your suggestions.

Excellent point Rico. Reach out; not hand out. I’ll be glad when we get away from the stigma of Red-Blue lenses. No one is listening to that garbage. Then we can focus on the issues; not color of maps or pigment of skin. Get a colorblind map and just maybe we can take another leap forward.

Rico, you can have your own opinion, but you cannot have your own facts. Under Bill CLinton, he inherited a deficit, he turned over a surplus.

Now, I disagree with some of the spending programs, and wante dmore money spent on some things that were cut. That’s the stuff that makes DC go ’round.

Budget surpluse smena one important thing: when you and I need credit, we don’t have to stand in line at the borrowing window behind our own governmemnt.

Those days are gone. For along damned time. Thank you very much George W. Bush, Dick Cheney and Blackwater/Halliburton/Corporate World. No-bid defense contracts for contributing buddies, outsourcing many of our embassy protection plans…anything for friends and their companies.

Today, somewhere in Texas or Arizona a local DA indicted Cheney and that scoundrel Alberto Gonzalez. It won’t go far, but I admire that DA’s guts.

Sara Palin is the person to reach out to all Americans. She is a pillar of faith and responsibility to the Eskimo population of Alaska and Russia. She will be THE answer in 2012.

Melyssa,
I am so disappointed to say i am a Republican. The M.C.R.C.C, Tom John, Brizzi and the rest of the goofs sabotaged our Mayor and now wants his friendship. They were so screwed up during the Mitch campaign and the national party screwed up the Presidential election. In fact, they are plotting against the mayor as i write this. E-mail me at flipper@iquest.net and I will fill you in on some of there other deviate plans. I even have a recorded conversation from one of their tall hog’s in the troff.
flipper

Shorebreak…I should be married to a guy like you! Thanks for all you contribute here. I’m learning loads.

Rico,

A very easy way for the Republican party to reach out to minorities is to stop catering to the thinly veiled racist base that were present at the Palin rallys.

Disassociate themselves with the likes of Hannity, Bill O Reilly and Rush.

Those two things would go a long way in reaching out to the minority community.

Your opinion that Affirmative Action has actually hurt African Americans is a joke. The same Clarence Thomas self hating looking to white people to validate your self worth.

To critize AA in a vacuum without acknowledging the history of this country is one of the reasons why blacks still vote Democrat in huge numbers.

And Abdul, you are right, the GOP does need to reach out to people of color. In fact, it needs to go a step further and reach out to ALL people. Color should not be a factor. We need to get beyond race.

Sorry Melissa – I’m already taken by a beautiful bride who’s much smarter than I will ever be.
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But I’m glad that you’re listening. Most people either glaze over because they can’t connect the dots, or they simply reject it because it’s so far outside of their perception of this great country. The fact that these criminals are operating in place of a legitimate government doesn’t lessen the greatness of this nation. It only means that we the people have a lot of work to do.

Dispute my facts for once. You’ve become a cliche, Think Again. How about some original thought, instead of the ‘Bush lied, people died’ bullshit?
And to Silent Bobbie: your feeble attempt at sarcasm wasn’t funny the first time.

Well Abdul…. a number of the comments here pretty much are case in point.

As conservative columnist Kathleen Parker said in her column today: Preaching to the choir produces no converts. Armband religion is killing the GOP. Religion needs to go back to the sacred non-government, non-political space where it belongs. But today’s story on the never-ending battle over praying in Jesus’ name in the Indiana General Assembly proves that the Indiana GOP probably isn’t going to be out front on that. Anyone notice, by the way, who snagged major votes of independents and Democrats by keeping away from the Bosma/Pat Miller ilk on that topic? Right. Mitch Daniels.

I’d appreciate it, ‘Rico E’, if you’d choose another name with which to post. I don’t want, in any way, for there to be confusion that we are one in the same.
The socio-economic progress of the black community began stagnating during the so-called civil rights movement. That is a fact.

If you are a black American, how long do you feel our government should tell you that you’re not as smart as your white American counterparts? The black community has been sold a bill of goods by the Dems. I would love to know what the Democrat party has done for black Americans, other than taking their vote for granted.

And why do those in the black community villify accomplished, black conservatives?

Abdul:

The GOP needs to reach out to minorities?

Well, minorities DO have something to say about THAT you know, though I’m sure the elite GOP would privately deny minorities the ‘right’ to “voluntarily” associate with the GOP. All rights are reserved for the GOP; minorities are just instruments to be utilized and discarded as needed by the GOP.

The GOP has reached out to the black population of 200,000+ in Marion County. You see, the GOP has decided that it can pick and choose amongst the blacks, the largest minority group, based upon a few preferred stereotypical models of black behaviors. From these blacks they then place a few token blacks in the party so that they can:

1) have 1 black sit on stage with all the other white people; disregard the fact that the black has no speaking role or any other significant role…just to sit on stage as a black person to represent blackness in the party,

2) have 1 black to sit at the table with the white elites,

3) have 1 black to seat people,

4) have 1 black to smile and deny that anything is wrong,

5) have 1 black who is allowed to speak ’so long as they say exactly what they are ‘allowed to say’, and finally…

So long as all these blacks NEVER congregrate together nor invite any other blacks they’ll be welcome in the GOP party.

Abdul, The GOP should just leave minorities alone and keep doing what they are doing…disappearing.

Repubs: I am all for your 2012 candidate Sarah Palin. Bolstered by the conservative intellectuals of Limbaugh, Hannity and Joe the Plumber great success is certain. Steer right and pray.

Darla, I’ve heard your name maligned much, but by this post, I cannot figure out why. Very thoughtful and, altho I know nothing of the inner workings of the state GOP, I’m betting your post is spot-on. Which is tragic if true.

And bit hit the ball out of the park.

Rico, honey, sometimes you come so close to facts it’s scary, but then you veer off into oblivion. One thing we both overlooked, which is critical: spending is off the charts. Which is, frankly, one more reason to restore tax cuts granted to the wealthy, back to the levels under CLinton, whose presidency wiped out our buidget deficit. I know it’s a tough nut to crack, but try o follow along, OK?Here are 3 links for you to ponder on the federal deficit:

http://www.cedarcomm.com/~stevelm1/usdebt.htm

http://www.lafn.org/gvdc/Natl_Debt_Chart.html

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_public_debt

I would be curious to see this map in 4 years if things still suck or God forbid get worse. It would also be interesting to see what this map would look like if there wasn’t the massive anti-Bush vibe (some of it rightfully so) *and* if Obama was not the Democratic candidate. I just think what happened here with our mayoral election just took place nationally. Everyone was pissed at Peterson over taxes, crime, etc. so people took their anger out at the polls. Time will tell.

“(Brzezinski)lamented that citizens of a free country who believe in liberty would never support aggressive military action, unless they sensed a direct external threat.” I guess Bush/ Cheney/ Wofolwitz proved him wrong on that one…..sigh.

Rico…NOT E…Rats! I though you had seen the light.

I for one do not view AA as the government telling me that I am not as smart as my white American counterpart.

I view it as the government making sure that a group of people(minorities and white women) that were historically discriminated against at least gets a opportunity. An opportunity before Affirmative Action that was not there.

Regardless of how people want to spin it to favor the opposing view of AA. AA does not state anywhere that companies are to hire unqualified workers over qualified workers. Period point blank. That is a fact.

You are speaking as if before AA, blacks in American were not excluded out of jobs and opportunities that they were more than qualified for. If that was the case then programs like Affirmative Action would not have been created.

As far as blacks following Democrats I am under the impression that it is the lesser of two evils.

Like I stated in my previous post Republicans can not openly cater to a racist base ie ‘Southern Strategy’, Hannity and the like and expect to draw a significant number of black votes.

Tom – a significant event was rolled out in the first part of September 2001 that gave Americans the impression that they faced a direct external threat. Am I wrong?
Analyze, my friend. Brzezinski wasn’t proven wrong – Bush and Cheney participated in proving him to be 100% correct.

Rico: The proof is in the pudding. More new jobs were created during the Clinton administrations than during Presidents Reagan and Bush combined. Unemployment fell from 7.5% to 4%. The poverty rate fell from 15% to 12%. Speaking of your vaulted GDP, Clinton’s administration had the longest economic expansion in history (107 consecutive months). The projected total budget SURPLUS for the ten years when Bush took office was 1.9 trillion dollars. Instead, after Bush’s first year we had deficits that accumulated a debt that more than doubled to over $12,000,000,000,000. And, the president-elect is guaranteed to have more than a trillion dollars in bailout debt in his first year. You can quibble over the beginning dates of the “Bush economy” but you can not argue with the fact that he has squandered our nation’s money in taking care of rich friends through his tax and war policies while devastating the American middle class. Incidentally, one thing you Republicans might try is a little respect for the office of the presidency and the great men who have held it. I guess you are so vehemently anti-government you can’t help but make up your funny names – Barry, Billdo – as a sign of your contempt. Could it be that Americans no longer are amused?

Shorebreak: You are not wrong that terrorism, as demonstrated on 9/11, is a direct threat to the U.S. What did Islamic terrorism have to do with the Iraq War? (I think we are in agreement on the other point. I was weak in my irony.)

Tom – the catalyst that Brzezinski was talking about was one that could be used to get US boots on the ground in Central Asia. His work in preparing for that began in the 1970’s.
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With regards to Iraq, I wouldn’t be surprised if there’s a lot more behind the Iraq invasion than meets the eye. Beyond claims of oil, WMD’s, and all of the rest of the reasons and blame that get’s thrown around. Zooming out to the geopolitical level, I look at the documented infiltration of regional players into the highest levels of US government and I see how an invasion of Iraq helps achieve many of their policy objectives – and I’m not refering solely to Israel. Turkey and Saudi Arabia are also primary beneficiaries of strategic regional advantages with the US in control of Iraq.
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What influence do some of these countries have towards influencing US military policy? That depends upon the goals of US policy makers. Not the elected ones who vote on Bills – the one’s behind the curtain who are present regardless of which administration is in office.

Shore, sometimes, you back into the truth. Some solid points. Still, I’d like to see some more respect for the Office of President. If we can survive the incumbent’s babbling misuse of authority, we can survive anything. Mark my words: W’s rampant abuse will, in short history, surpass Nixon’s. Just wait until a new AG gets in there are starts rooting around the injustices performed under Alberto Gonzalez. For those of us who love the Constitution, it’s frightening.

But…for the love of God–learn some grammar and how to use apostrophes. Hint: they never, ever make anything plural, and they don’t always follow an “s.”

Shorebreak: I believe (in an admittedly less knowledgeable way than you) that access to oil is the common factor in many of our geopolitical policies. It may be that it has to be, since at this point, our economy certainly relies on the flow of oil. Incidentally, I don’t think Obama really will get us completely out of Iraq. He will draw down the troops significantly, to the extent allied Iraqis can ‘stand up’. But we have spent way too much in blood and treasure building bases all over that country to think that we are just going to plant “democracy” and leave. With occupations of Iraq and Afghanistan we look after our economic interests, keep the pressure on Iran and Syria, and protect our only real Middle East ally, Israel. Strategically, it probably was not a bad move. I just hope Obama and the American people will keep pushing for energy independence so that we can reduce the need for so much oil and get back to taking care of America’s neglected needs. Remembering the seventies though I can’t say as I am very optimistic about this happening.

Mike, former Rico E: Thanks for the reasoned (and correct) analysis. Good luck with that here. :)

LOL – Sorry about the punctuation, TA. I work so heavily in quality documentation at work, it must be my subconscious rebelling. Or something like that.
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As for Bush, he’s not only the worst President so far. His crimes against humanity surpass Clinton, Bush Sr, and Carter combined. Granted, they knowingly laid the foundation for the upcoming paradigm shift away from representative government, but Bush has done the most damage by far.
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Domestically speaking, the removal of habeus corpus and posse comitatus are simply beyond repugnant. They’re sickening, and the mainstream media’s failure to remind viewers daily that we now live under this new reality inexcusable. The Bush Administration knowingly added to Clintons work by completing the de-regulation of our finance system, exposing us to the massive default crisis that’s now already moving rapidly to Main Street from Wall Street. Together we could come up with hundreds of examples.
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Then there’s the international criminal activities. Lying to an entire nation and to the world in order to forcibly replace a foreign government and occupy their soil, at the cost of over one million lives – most of them innocent civilians. That alone should require life sentences for everyone involved in a policy role. That’s not to mention the continuation of Clinton policy against Somalia and Haiti, the coercion and manipulation of Georgia, Ukraine, Kosovo, and others, and the approval of genocidal action taken against the Kurds by Turkey.
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With regard to the level of criminal activity carried out by the Bush Administration, we are in agreement. It’s unsurpassed. My biggest fear is that just as Bush worked with the precedents and pathways laid before him by his predecessors, Obama’s pathway has been cleared and prepared by Bush. Only this time, the path includes the elimination of Habeus Corpus and Posse Comitatus. Considering that Obama emerges from the same corporate dynamic that provided us Bush and Clinton, I see no reason to believe that Obama won’t walk down the road that he’s been provided.
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It was truly grimful when we saw what Clinton had prepared for Bush. Looking at what Bush has prepared for Obama, it’s beyond grim. It’s frightening.

Grimful. Today I learned a new word. Or, a Shoreism.

Stick with me, TA. I’m a pioneer. :)

Everyone’s a pioneer to someone.

Tom,
Watch the following analysis. There’s a foundational component that the speaker is missing, but his analysis of what is happening and what is coming is spot on and identical to my own assessments. Watch both parts and keep it in your back pocket as events unfold. You’ll understand how the media and leadership lies as these policy recommendations are implemented.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2j753Y2_KDg

I’m black. In 1994 I did what I had not done for a long time. I examined the democrat party that I blindly and faithfully voted for and found them wanting. In 1994 I voted for Republican and soon after registered as a Republican.
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Then sometime in 1998 after Newt caved like a cheap card table and a lot of the other republicans moved to the center if not to the left, I stopped voting for and supporting the bulk of them.
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If the repubs want to “reach out” to minorities, they need to return to fiscal and moral responsibilities.

Absolutely, Daw-g!

The Great Birth Certificate Scandal-Cover-Up of the 2008 Election
November 22, 2008
by Joan Swirsky
This week, newscasters reported that al Qaeda’s #2 terrorist disparaged the election of Barack Obama, and hurled racial slurs at Obama himself. “The report has not been confirmed by the State Department,” they all said, but they reported it anyway.

Last week, Fox News reporter Carl Cameron told viewers that three “anonymous” insiders of Sen. McCain’s campaign said that Sarah Palin was, in essence, a diva and a dunce. He – and dozens of others who picked up the story on other channels – never identified, or even verified, the sources of the quotes, but they reported them anyway.

Contrast these shabby examples of “journalism” with the legions of identifiable, verifiable and credible sources who for months have been investigating the disturbing allegation that Barack Obama is ineligible for the presidency because he has failed to meet one of the three requirements that the U.S. Constitution mandates, specifically that he provide proof of his “natural born” U.S. citizenship.

What follows is a partial list of people and organizations that have challenged Obama’s eligibility. Further on I will comment on how egregious the media’s failure to cover this story has been. And last, I will speculate on the reason for the cover-up of this full-blown scandal.

Attorney Philip J. Berg, former deputy attorney general of Pennsylvania and a longtime Democrat partisan, sued Obama and the Democratic National Committee for what he alleged was the DNC’s failure to vet Obama, and Obama’s failure to provide an authentic and verifiable U.S. birth certificate. The suit was dismissed as “too vague…” Berg filed a writ of certiorari in the U.S. Supreme Court on Oct.30, to force Obama to produce his birth certificate. On Nov. 3, Justice David Souter rejected Berg’s emergency appeal for the court to halt the tabulation of the 2008 presidential election results, but set a schedule for a response from Obama, the DNC and all co-defendants on or before Dec. 1. Berg claims to have a tape recording of Obama’s Kenyan grandmother saying that she was present at Obama’s birth in Kenya, along with his half-brother and half-sister. Here is his website.

According to WorldNetDaily, blogger Jeff Schreiber said a second case was presented to the Supreme Court on the same issue, i.e., the Federal Election Commission (FEC) has waived its right to respond to a complaint brought by attorney Philip Berg, possibly – among other reasons – because they liked their odds of Berg’s petition getting denied. Berg said that if the FEC filed not solely on its own behalf but “on behalf of the DNC and Barack Obama too, it reeks of collusion.”

Dr. T.B. Bradley, a forensic psychologist, stated, as part of the Berg case, that, “Upon reading all of the books written by or about Barack Hussein Obama, Jr. aka Barry Soetoro (hereinafter Obama) Applicant discerned that Obama was not a natural born citizen of the United States or if he was a natural born citizen that he had lost his citizenship when his biological mother married Lolo Soetoro, a citizen of Indonesia. Obama then became a citizen of Indonesia as a result of his mother’s expatriation of herself and her son, by self declaration on legal public educational records that Obama was formally known as Barry Soetoro, a citizen of Indonesia [and] was not US Constitutionally qualified to hold the Office of the United States Senator from Illinois or the Office of the President of the United States.”

Author, radio host, blogger, and Chicago attorney Andy Martin filed a suit in Hawaii’s Supreme Court to compel Gov. Linda Lingle to release a certified copy of Obama’s vital statistics record. His request was denied. On Nov. 18, he petitioned a judge in Hawaii for access to Obama’s original 1961 birth certificate, and reported that “the judge reserved judgment.” But when he arrived back in the states, he learned that Judge Bert Ayabe had dismissed the case.
Former presidential candidate Alan Keyes filed a suit with the California Secretary of State asking that the state’s 55 Electoral College votes not be cast on December 15 until Obama verifies his eligibility to hold the office. Keyes’ suit was filed by Gary Kreep of the United States Justice Foundation, along with California Electors Wiley S. Drake and Markham Robinson. The action states: “Should Senator Obama be discovered, after he takes office, to be ineligible for the Office of President of the United States, and, thereby, his election declared void….(a) usurper will be sitting as the President of the United States, and none of the treaties, laws, or executive orders signed by him will be valid or legal.” Former California Secretaries of State have reviewed background documents to verify the eligibility of candidates. In 1968, the Peace and Freedom Party submitted the name of Eldridge Cleaver as a qualified candidate for POTUS. Then Secretary of State, Frank Jordan, found that according to Cleaver’s birth certificate, he was only 34 years old, one year shy of the age needed to be on the ballot. Mr. Jordan removed Mr. Cleaver from the ballot. Cleaver unsuccessfully challenged this decision to the Supreme Court of the State of California and to the Supreme Court.

Lt. Col. Donald Sullivan, a retired 23-year veteran of the Army, National Guard, and Air Force filed another suit in North Carolina, which claimed Obama should not have been on the state’s election ballot because his citizenship is in doubt.

David M. Neal of Ohio filed a suit in Warren Common Pleas Court to force the Ohio Secretary of State, Jennifer Brunner, to request documents from the Federal Elections Commission, the Democratic National Committee, the Ohio Democratic Party and Obama to show the presidential candidate was born in Hawaii. The case was denied.

Cort Wrotnowski of Connecticut asked the court to order Secretary of State, Susan Bysiewicz, to verify Obama’s citizenship before allowing the candidate to appear on the state ballot. The case was denied.

Steven Marquis filed a suit Washington State Superior Court, calling for Secretary of State, Sam Reed, to determine whether Obama is a citizen before Election Day, claiming the Hawaii birth certificate reveals neither the hospital where Obama was born nor a doctor’s name the baby’s footprint. The case was denied.

Rev. Tom Terry of Georgia appealed to the Georgia Supreme Court the day before the election to determine authenticity of Obama’s original birth certificate and his qualifications to be president. Georgia Superior Court Judge Jerry W. Baxter denied Terry’s request for an injunction against Secretary of State Karen Handel.

Author Jerome Corsi, who has written extensively about this case, traveled to Hawaii and Kenya. He learned that the Certification of Live Birth that the Obama campaign posted is, according to the Department of Hawaiian Home Lands, not the same as a Certificate of Live Birth, which authenticates Hawaiian birth.

Obama’s half-sister, Maya Soetoro, has named two different Hawaii hospitals where Obama could have been born. In November 2004 she said he was born at Queens Medical Center in Honolulu, but in February 2008, she said he was born in the Kapiolani Medical Center for Women and Children. Before the election, the Internet site, WorldNetDaily, retained a private investigator in Hawaii to visit both hospitals, but he reported that sheriff’s deputies were stationed at both hospitals to fend off inquiries.

Leo C. Donofrio a retired attorney, started a website (supporting link) and filed a suit in New Jersey on November 3, asking Secretary of State, Nina Mitchell Wells, for an emergency stay prohibiting Obama, Sen. McCain, and Socialist Worker’s Party candidate Roger Calero, from appearing on New Jersey’s ballot, claiming all three are not “natural born citizens.” On Nov. 6, Supreme Court Justice David Souter denied Donofrio’s application. But the case has now entered the docket of the U.S. Supreme Court and Justice Clarence Thomas has decided to send it to conference on December 5th! This means that only 10 days before the Electoral College votes, the nine Justices of the U.S. Supreme Court will meet privately to discuss Donofrio’s case.

Douglas J. Hagmann, director of HomelandSecurityUS.com, has reported that 17 lawsuits in 12 states are challenging the eligibility of Obama to become the next President of the United States.

Numerous activist groups have undertaken letter-writing campaigns to the Supreme Court Justices, members of the Electoral College, and elected officials, as well as sending urgent appeals to the White House and the Department of Justice.

Websites like Citizens for the United States Constitution, We The People, PeoplesPassion, America Must Know, and Faith2Action have sprung up in passionate defense of our Constitution’s integrity. The last of these has even posted the names and addresses of Electoral College members from each state, as well as an ad in The Washington Times.

Dozens of petitions, like this one, have been circulated.

And dozens of mostly-conservative writers (including Devy Kidd and Miichelle Malkin), bloggers and journalists have written about his strange case and potential Constitutional crisis, as I have in a series of articles – here and here and here and here.

Coverage of the above by the media: Zero.

A DEAFENING SILENCE

It is no mystery that the leftist media have refused to mention this potentially looming Constitutional crisis in virtually all of their print and electronic coverage. Having shilled for Obama for the past two years – dismissing his longtime radical associations, obfuscating his radical voting record, and taking a pass at their jobs of vetting a presidential candidate – their failure to cover the most explosive story of the 2008 campaign speaks volumes about collusion of the highest order.

Then there are the late-night comics, as well as snarky “humorists” like Bill Maher and Jon Stewart, who take pride in being irreverent and “outing” both people and subjects that others avoid. Not a word.

But what about the failure of the powerful conservative media – how to explain their total blackout of this story? Let’s look at their reactions:

Fox News: Total Silence. Did the healthy shares that Saudi Arabia bought of Fox influence the network’s non-coverage of this story? After all, it’s no secret which candidate the Saudis endorsed! We know that TV shows, including Fox, are on a seven-second delay, the better to bleep out offensive or inappropriate material. Doesn’t it strike Fox viewers as strange that not one of their outspoken guests, even once, mentioned this story? Who warned them not to?

Rush Limbaugh: Total Silence. Why has the Excellence-in-Broadcasting’s “Dr. of Democracy” – the man who eats sacred cows for breakfast – not touched this story?

Mark Levin: Total Silence. Why has this popular radio host, commonly known as “the Great One,” abandoned his well-deserved reputation as a Constitutional scholar to studiously not address this Constitutional issue?

Laura Ingraham: Total Silence. Here is another radio powerhouse and former clerk to Justice Clarence Thomas taking pains not to mention this case…not a word!

Bill O’Reilly: Total Silence. Yes, the guy who claims he’s “just looking out for the folks”…voiceless!

Sean Hannity: Total Silence. The iconic radio and TV host who tackles every controversial subject under the sun…missing in action!

I could go on and on, but you get the picture. The very people – the so-called loyal opposition – who should have been shouting this story from the rooftops for months on end went mute. Ordinarily they would be the first to tell you that our Republic has no more precious document than the U.S. Constitution – a document that set the stage for the greatest experiment in human freedom since the beginning of recorded history. People like me – and multi-millions of others – are aware of what happens when the “salami tactics” of tyrants are employed in the service of leftwing ideology.

First, there is a charismatic character promising “change” and “hope,” but who changes his tune once in power. Second there is a whittling down of the laws of the land and the arrogant dismissal of the documents on which the nation was founded. Third there is the blacking-out of all media that disagree with Dear Leader’s message. And fourth there is the rounding-up and incarceration – or worse – of all dissidents.

This is not theory. This is history. But while both left and right media thought it appropriate to comment at length about Obama’s seven-page Questionnaire for those seeking work in his administration – a probing that makes a Pap Test, mammogram, colonoscopy, and endoscopy in one visit seem mild by comparison – not one of these cowardly journalists has asked the simple question: Mr. Obama, where is your birth certificate?

Or were they not cowards but patriots?

SCROUNGING FOR ANSWERS

I’ve written several books, not one of them fictional. And thousands of articles, not one of them based on sinister suspicions or conspiracy theories. But the case of the U.S. media’s complete non-coverage of this major story has gotten me to speculate on what – or who – may be behind this phenomenon. What force could be so powerful as to silence our country’s putative guardians of free speech – the titans of the Fourth Estate?

Perhaps the mystery goes back to 2004, when President Bush won his second term in office and in his first press conference in the White House said that he had “earned political capital and intended to spend it.”

Then – suddenly and inexplicably – he went into a year-long hibernation. He rarely appeared in public and gave no major speeches. Finally he reemerged – albeit weakly – in late November or early December of 2005

Could it be that shortly after the president’s reelection, he and major government officials received highly credible evidence from America’s ruthless Islamist enemies that they had a number of devastating (probably nuclear suitcase) weapons – set up and ready to be activated in as many as six-to-10 of our major cities – unless he (the president) tacked left and played nice for the following two years?

Was America taken hostage?

The president, one could speculate, had only two choices: (1) play “chicken” and possibly sacrifice the lives of millions of Americans and the destruction of major American cities, or (2) opt for the lesser of two evils, the second being to pave the way for a dangerous Trojan Horse – qualified or not – to capture the White House.

Could it be that the media blackout of the most explosive story of any presidential election in American history has been choreographed by none other than the current POTUS – the most powerful man in the entire world? This would certainly explain why President Bush has not “been himself” since January 20, 2005. It would also explain why the all-powerful media have taken his marching orders – including the New York Times, which takes particular pleasure in undermining and sabotaging the president, even when it comes to national security issues.

If this happened, it would have had to involve the highest echelon in our intelligence services, who might have paid personal visits to publishers throughout the United States, as well as to top TV and radio executives, who themselves would have passed down iron-clad orders – to their anchors, broadcasters, even comedians – to follow the blackout order or face Draconian consequences. Clearly, they followed their marching orders.

On November 4 – Election Day – the Dow was above 9,000. It is now plummeting to below 7,000, suggesting that even the “globalists” among us prefer tax cuts and capitalism to tax hikes and not creeping but galloping socialism – or what the esteemed Dr. Jack Wheeler insists is fascism.

Buyers’ remorse is in the air. America has been hijacked. What a price we will pay if the Supreme Court and the Electoral College abandon their oaths to uphold the U.S. Constitution by capitulating – as the media have – to our enemies. God Save America!
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Joan Swirsky (http://www.joanswirsky.com/) is a New York-based journalist and author who can be reached at joansharon@aol.comThis e-mail address is being protected from spam bots, you need JavaScript enabled to view it .

Daw-g,

Republicans can’t return to something they never practiced in the first place.

They preach it all the time. But never practice it.

Their idea of a fiscally responsible government is spending our money on what them deem is important.

It has nothing to do with spending less money.

Lowery you are an idiot. Of course it is what they feel is important to spend money on, but it is typically less than what democrats spen money on. We have our problems for sure (tom john and glenn murphy for example) but overall we stand for less government and hae higher moral character.

Farmboy,

Standing for it and practicing it is two totally different things.

If you can point to where Republicans actually practice less spending than the Democrats then I will be quiet. But I know you can’t. It is just talk.

Republicans like to stand on a soap box of moral character. But once again very rarely do they practice it.