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		<title>By: Melyssa</title>
		<link>http://www.indianabarrister.com/archives/2008/11/capitol_watch-2.html/comment-page-1#comment-16702</link>
		<dc:creator>Melyssa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Nov 2008 18:21:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with the comments that the tax caps are a bad idea.  We really don&#039;t want them fiddling with the constitution. We need property tax completely abolished.  I&#039;m curious just how much additional money this most recent property tax debacle with its reassessments, referendum, collections, and appeals has cost the taxpayers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with the comments that the tax caps are a bad idea.  We really don&#8217;t want them fiddling with the constitution. We need property tax completely abolished.  I&#8217;m curious just how much additional money this most recent property tax debacle with its reassessments, referendum, collections, and appeals has cost the taxpayers.</p>
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		<title>By: Melyssa</title>
		<link>http://www.indianabarrister.com/archives/2008/11/capitol_watch-2.html/comment-page-1#comment-16701</link>
		<dc:creator>Melyssa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Nov 2008 18:17:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Don&#039;t worry Dave, Teresa Lubbers will protect us!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don&#8217;t worry Dave, Teresa Lubbers will protect us!</p>
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		<title>By: Sean Shepard</title>
		<link>http://www.indianabarrister.com/archives/2008/11/capitol_watch-2.html/comment-page-1#comment-16679</link>
		<dc:creator>Sean Shepard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Nov 2008 12:37:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am also in favor of property tax repeal and am very suspicious of the property tax caps for three primary reasons:

(1) creates a false sense that the property tax issue is resolved yet people can still lose their homes.
(2) assessments can still be highly subjective and/or not based on market realities.
(3) potentially legitimizes the property tax system constitutionally and it could take another 10 or 20 years to get serious attention back on the issue</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am also in favor of property tax repeal and am very suspicious of the property tax caps for three primary reasons:</p>
<p>(1) creates a false sense that the property tax issue is resolved yet people can still lose their homes.<br />
(2) assessments can still be highly subjective and/or not based on market realities.<br />
(3) potentially legitimizes the property tax system constitutionally and it could take another 10 or 20 years to get serious attention back on the issue</p>
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		<title>By: Theoldman</title>
		<link>http://www.indianabarrister.com/archives/2008/11/capitol_watch-2.html/comment-page-1#comment-16658</link>
		<dc:creator>Theoldman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Nov 2008 01:36:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For those of you now concerned about the property tax &quot;cap&quot; as proposed, I suggest you read &quot;April Fool,&quot; posted on 3/20/08 on www.indytaxdollars.typepad.com.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For those of you now concerned about the property tax &#8220;cap&#8221; as proposed, I suggest you read &#8220;April Fool,&#8221; posted on 3/20/08 on <a href="http://www.indytaxdollars.typepad.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.indytaxdollars.typepad.com</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: Robert-NW Side</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robert-NW Side</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Nov 2008 23:36:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As I&#039;ve said before; I am against a Constitutional cap on property taxes.
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Government has lied to us before.  Take the last time they muddled with Article 10 as an example back in &#039;04.
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I want property taxes, and the confiscation of peoples homes, abolished.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As I&#8217;ve said before; I am against a Constitutional cap on property taxes.<br />
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Government has lied to us before.  Take the last time they muddled with Article 10 as an example back in &#8216;04.<br />
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I want property taxes, and the confiscation of peoples homes, abolished.</p>
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		<title>By: Greg</title>
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		<dc:creator>Greg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Nov 2008 21:43:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Shorebreak.  Thanks for coming back on my post.  I won&#039;t try to confuse my point further.  Instead, I will confirm 100% alignment to your last post. Well said.  Thanks. Greg</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Shorebreak.  Thanks for coming back on my post.  I won&#8217;t try to confuse my point further.  Instead, I will confirm 100% alignment to your last post. Well said.  Thanks. Greg</p>
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		<title>By: Shorebreak</title>
		<link>http://www.indianabarrister.com/archives/2008/11/capitol_watch-2.html/comment-page-1#comment-16649</link>
		<dc:creator>Shorebreak</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Nov 2008 21:08:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Greg, I&#039;m not clear on your second point to me. To clarify and to expand for you, my entire point in most of my posts is that we&#039;re surrounded by a media and a leadership - particularly at the national level - who are complicit in lies of omission and commission that allow the public to concede control to corporate greed. Our system has been so tightly structured around that fact that when pinpoints of light are revealed, the light is determined by the average person to be an anomally rather than a glimpes at reality.
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I could tell people that the Pentagon announced in a press release that it lost $2 Trillion and has refused to explain how. Most would either dismiss it as false because they aren&#039;t aware of it, or they&#039;d simply let it go in one ear and out the other because the nature, complexity, and impact of the crime simply doesn&#039;t register.
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The loss of the money with no excuse is a fact, admiitted by the Pentagon and the Secretary of Defense, yet most people are unaware or they don&#039;t give a $h!t. Why? We&#039;re living in a conditioned environment. 
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I give you the Pentagon theft as an example of ommission and of complicity that&#039;s the result of the corporate overthrow of our government.
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I&#039;m not a capitalist. I&#039;m not a communist. I&#039;m not an independent. And I&#039;m not an anarchist. I&#039;m a republican (lower case &quot;r&quot;) who places his faith in the individual liberty, free market, and sovereign rule of law established by the US Constitution.
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From a political perspective, when I post on this board that is my point. We don&#039;t have a corrupt leadership. We have a usurped leadership. I give you the Pentagon as another example.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Greg, I&#8217;m not clear on your second point to me. To clarify and to expand for you, my entire point in most of my posts is that we&#8217;re surrounded by a media and a leadership &#8211; particularly at the national level &#8211; who are complicit in lies of omission and commission that allow the public to concede control to corporate greed. Our system has been so tightly structured around that fact that when pinpoints of light are revealed, the light is determined by the average person to be an anomally rather than a glimpes at reality.<br />
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I could tell people that the Pentagon announced in a press release that it lost $2 Trillion and has refused to explain how. Most would either dismiss it as false because they aren&#8217;t aware of it, or they&#8217;d simply let it go in one ear and out the other because the nature, complexity, and impact of the crime simply doesn&#8217;t register.<br />
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The loss of the money with no excuse is a fact, admiitted by the Pentagon and the Secretary of Defense, yet most people are unaware or they don&#8217;t give a $h!t. Why? We&#8217;re living in a conditioned environment.<br />
.<br />
I give you the Pentagon theft as an example of ommission and of complicity that&#8217;s the result of the corporate overthrow of our government.<br />
.<br />
I&#8217;m not a capitalist. I&#8217;m not a communist. I&#8217;m not an independent. And I&#8217;m not an anarchist. I&#8217;m a republican (lower case &#8220;r&#8221;) who places his faith in the individual liberty, free market, and sovereign rule of law established by the US Constitution.<br />
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From a political perspective, when I post on this board that is my point. We don&#8217;t have a corrupt leadership. We have a usurped leadership. I give you the Pentagon as another example.</p>
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		<title>By: Greg</title>
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		<dc:creator>Greg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Nov 2008 20:44:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>oops, meant to say interpret, not interrupt.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>oops, meant to say interpret, not interrupt.</p>
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		<title>By: Greg</title>
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		<dc:creator>Greg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Nov 2008 20:41:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with Shorebreak on immigration.  I also interrupt what Jerry was posting regarding Arizona was that their success was in enforcing the laws that are on the books.  While the laws need to be driven by the Feds, support needs to come from local law enforcement.  Not to have this would suggest that the Feds need to flood each community with a redundant police force just to deal with immigration.  I think (without facts) that if Arizona is successful, it is because they have chosen this partnership.  I doubt that the &quot;walls&quot; have had much to do with it.

On a second point to Shorebreak.  I think your second point in post three is in part about outing those who oppose change for the sake of their sacred turf, not about honest debate, as you point out in post five, and supported in post six.  Just my two cents.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with Shorebreak on immigration.  I also interrupt what Jerry was posting regarding Arizona was that their success was in enforcing the laws that are on the books.  While the laws need to be driven by the Feds, support needs to come from local law enforcement.  Not to have this would suggest that the Feds need to flood each community with a redundant police force just to deal with immigration.  I think (without facts) that if Arizona is successful, it is because they have chosen this partnership.  I doubt that the &#8220;walls&#8221; have had much to do with it.</p>
<p>On a second point to Shorebreak.  I think your second point in post three is in part about outing those who oppose change for the sake of their sacred turf, not about honest debate, as you point out in post five, and supported in post six.  Just my two cents.</p>
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		<title>By: Adam Smith</title>
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		<dc:creator>Adam Smith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Nov 2008 18:06:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is something everyone should be worried about.  Billions of taxpayers money going into a black hole.

A tiny Indiana bank and the bailout

http://newstalk.ibj.com/blogshell.asp?p=244</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is something everyone should be worried about.  Billions of taxpayers money going into a black hole.</p>
<p>A tiny Indiana bank and the bailout</p>
<p><a href="http://newstalk.ibj.com/blogshell.asp?p=244" rel="nofollow">http://newstalk.ibj.com/blogshell.asp?p=244</a></p>
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