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		<title>By: Think Again</title>
		<link>http://www.indianabarrister.com/archives/2008/08/wynns_of_change.html/comment-page-1#comment-13022</link>
		<dc:creator>Think Again</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Aug 2008 11:01:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hope springs eternal, Taxpayer.

Today&#039;s Friday, so Dan is using the Burton brain.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hope springs eternal, Taxpayer.</p>
<p>Today&#8217;s Friday, so Dan is using the Burton brain.</p>
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		<title>By: Taxpayer 834512</title>
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		<dc:creator>Taxpayer 834512</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Aug 2008 01:56:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>With you on the Burtons.  And, with strong candidates from a kaleidoscope of gender,  religion, education, and experience, the city got &quot;The Seed&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>With you on the Burtons.  And, with strong candidates from a kaleidoscope of gender,  religion, education, and experience, the city got &#8220;The Seed&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Think Again</title>
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		<dc:creator>Think Again</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Aug 2008 01:38:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Get over it: I have lobbied. Peterson and Ballard are scared of the issue.  

And frankly, this is the one place we can whine about it: the blog owner has waxed eloquent about the very issue over and over.  

I&#039;m merely agreeing with him.  And he&#039;s right, by the by.

Besides, Lincoln Plowman and Monroe Gray together have about half a brain.  Kinda like the Burtons.  Our city can and must do better.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Get over it: I have lobbied. Peterson and Ballard are scared of the issue.  </p>
<p>And frankly, this is the one place we can whine about it: the blog owner has waxed eloquent about the very issue over and over.  </p>
<p>I&#8217;m merely agreeing with him.  And he&#8217;s right, by the by.</p>
<p>Besides, Lincoln Plowman and Monroe Gray together have about half a brain.  Kinda like the Burtons.  Our city can and must do better.</p>
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		<title>By: Moneyguy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Moneyguy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Aug 2008 20:22:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Change is good! If this guy has been around for four administrations then maybe it is time for a new director of the parks. New ideas and changes are always good in my book. As for Amos Brown you know those radio show host always have to have something negative to talk about it&#039;s in the &quot;Dummies book on how to be a Talk Radio Show Host&quot;! I&#039;m sure Abdul has a copy! ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Change is good! If this guy has been around for four administrations then maybe it is time for a new director of the parks. New ideas and changes are always good in my book. As for Amos Brown you know those radio show host always have to have something negative to talk about it&#8217;s in the &#8220;Dummies book on how to be a Talk Radio Show Host&#8221;! I&#8217;m sure Abdul has a copy! ;)</p>
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		<title>By: Get over it</title>
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		<dc:creator>Get over it</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Aug 2008 20:13:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Think again, I appreciate your cogenty analysis and as you say 30 yrs in local politics, but Get over the public safety employee issue you have!  Lobby to have this changed if you have not done so, but frankly, the insults and allegations of impropriety get old, and childish.  Those of us who read thisb log expect better than that from you</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Think again, I appreciate your cogenty analysis and as you say 30 yrs in local politics, but Get over the public safety employee issue you have!  Lobby to have this changed if you have not done so, but frankly, the insults and allegations of impropriety get old, and childish.  Those of us who read thisb log expect better than that from you</p>
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		<title>By: flipper</title>
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		<dc:creator>flipper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Aug 2008 18:42:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Abdul,
Your prediction was right about the resignation of Joe Wynn.
Amos Brown whined about it for at least 20 minutes on his radio show this afternoon.
flipper</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Abdul,<br />
Your prediction was right about the resignation of Joe Wynn.<br />
Amos Brown whined about it for at least 20 minutes on his radio show this afternoon.<br />
flipper</p>
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		<title>By: Jocelyn-Tandy Adande</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jocelyn-Tandy Adande</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Aug 2008 18:32:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Response to think again.

I can count more than four members who have financially supported the council and are financial members.  Obviously you are not a member or you would know who the members are.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Response to think again.</p>
<p>I can count more than four members who have financially supported the council and are financial members.  Obviously you are not a member or you would know who the members are.</p>
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		<title>By: Taxpayer 834512</title>
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		<dc:creator>Taxpayer 834512</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Aug 2008 17:04:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>TA- thx again for historical references for those of us not here.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>TA- thx again for historical references for those of us not here.</p>
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		<title>By: Think Again</title>
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		<dc:creator>Think Again</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Aug 2008 15:18:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jocelyn honey, the four-member AARCI is hardly credible, but thanks for trying. Joe Wynns&#039;s resignation is not due to racism.  It&#039;s due to bad prinorities on the 25th floor.

John, you may be right, but I doubt it.  Regardless, we are involved in those economic development projects which seem to help the city overall.  Whether you or I agree on those specifics, or whether we&#039;d do it if we were in charge, is hardly the issue.  They&#039;re done.

I harken back to the original RCA Dome argument.  Hordes of folks argued that Indy would never be a convention city.

Fast forward to 2008.  Indy is one of the hubs for the second tier of conventions, the less-pricey ones: service clubs, churches, band groups, high school groups, etc.  A huge business, and it&#039;s growing in leaps because folks come here to conventions, and they like our hospitality and the downtown layout.

My point is: from 1960-1999, under three Republican mayors, raising taxes or re-shaping budgets for essential services just wasn&#039;t done.  So, we have: a decaying sewer problem that has a billion dollar pricetag.  A jail situation that a Republican federal judge said was impossible--and she&#039;s right.  A transit system that does not work.  And I could go on.

Problems delayed are problems amplified--always.  I wish we&#039;d have done the CSO, and if it meant the CSO or RCA Dome, I&#039;d have opted for fixing the sewers.

But they didn&#039;t ask me.  The ruling class at the time had disdain for anyone except white middle-aged lawyers and bankers.  Period.

And look what it got us: expensive fixes.

Also, to be fair, one of the nicest downtowns in America, that makes money for all of us. But the cost was overwhelming, and now we&#039;re got to pay the piper. For my money, I&#039;d prefer we have nice parks and fixed sewers and buses.
And, that we take care of this marvelous downtown that attracts folks to our city. While we take care of the less-sexy things in neighborhoods.

The Olgen Williamses of the world don&#039;t get that.  Ditto that pinhead Lincoln Plowman.  

But I digress...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jocelyn honey, the four-member AARCI is hardly credible, but thanks for trying. Joe Wynns&#8217;s resignation is not due to racism.  It&#8217;s due to bad prinorities on the 25th floor.</p>
<p>John, you may be right, but I doubt it.  Regardless, we are involved in those economic development projects which seem to help the city overall.  Whether you or I agree on those specifics, or whether we&#8217;d do it if we were in charge, is hardly the issue.  They&#8217;re done.</p>
<p>I harken back to the original RCA Dome argument.  Hordes of folks argued that Indy would never be a convention city.</p>
<p>Fast forward to 2008.  Indy is one of the hubs for the second tier of conventions, the less-pricey ones: service clubs, churches, band groups, high school groups, etc.  A huge business, and it&#8217;s growing in leaps because folks come here to conventions, and they like our hospitality and the downtown layout.</p>
<p>My point is: from 1960-1999, under three Republican mayors, raising taxes or re-shaping budgets for essential services just wasn&#8217;t done.  So, we have: a decaying sewer problem that has a billion dollar pricetag.  A jail situation that a Republican federal judge said was impossible&#8211;and she&#8217;s right.  A transit system that does not work.  And I could go on.</p>
<p>Problems delayed are problems amplified&#8211;always.  I wish we&#8217;d have done the CSO, and if it meant the CSO or RCA Dome, I&#8217;d have opted for fixing the sewers.</p>
<p>But they didn&#8217;t ask me.  The ruling class at the time had disdain for anyone except white middle-aged lawyers and bankers.  Period.</p>
<p>And look what it got us: expensive fixes.</p>
<p>Also, to be fair, one of the nicest downtowns in America, that makes money for all of us. But the cost was overwhelming, and now we&#8217;re got to pay the piper. For my money, I&#8217;d prefer we have nice parks and fixed sewers and buses.<br />
And, that we take care of this marvelous downtown that attracts folks to our city. While we take care of the less-sexy things in neighborhoods.</p>
<p>The Olgen Williamses of the world don&#8217;t get that.  Ditto that pinhead Lincoln Plowman.  </p>
<p>But I digress&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Jocelyn-Tandy Adande</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jocelyn-Tandy Adande</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Aug 2008 14:44:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For the record Mayor Ballard is not a racist and for those so called AA leaders and spokespersons to suggest it is a lie. For the record, the African American Republican Council of Indianapolis did endorse him last year and helped to regain control of the city-county council.  There are several new black leaders, elected and appointed in the city/county who just happen to be republicans. The same select group of democrats have chosen to ignore them when they speak of leaders for he African American Community. 

Already implied by Amos Brown on his talk show yesterday.  The Peterson supporters are already accusing Ballard of being anti black and minority regarding the police department which never should have been merged in the first place, and now Mr. Wynns departure.  However, Mr. Wynns has stated it was time for him to do something on the national level.  38 years is a long time for anyone to work in the same position.  We can assume that maybe he was burnt-out and that can happen.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For the record Mayor Ballard is not a racist and for those so called AA leaders and spokespersons to suggest it is a lie. For the record, the African American Republican Council of Indianapolis did endorse him last year and helped to regain control of the city-county council.  There are several new black leaders, elected and appointed in the city/county who just happen to be republicans. The same select group of democrats have chosen to ignore them when they speak of leaders for he African American Community. </p>
<p>Already implied by Amos Brown on his talk show yesterday.  The Peterson supporters are already accusing Ballard of being anti black and minority regarding the police department which never should have been merged in the first place, and now Mr. Wynns departure.  However, Mr. Wynns has stated it was time for him to do something on the national level.  38 years is a long time for anyone to work in the same position.  We can assume that maybe he was burnt-out and that can happen.</p>
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