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		<title>By: just a thought</title>
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		<dc:creator>just a thought</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Aug 2008 10:05:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How crazy would it be...if...mccain made hillary his vp? ...game over! we are going to be in a mess for a couple years, regardless, who gets to run this goat rodeo!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How crazy would it be&#8230;if&#8230;mccain made hillary his vp? &#8230;game over! we are going to be in a mess for a couple years, regardless, who gets to run this goat rodeo!</p>
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		<title>By: Taxpayer 834512</title>
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		<dc:creator>Taxpayer 834512</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Aug 2008 02:13:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Make that &quot;...eat and buy fuel for HEAT and we can&#039;t.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Make that &#8220;&#8230;eat and buy fuel for HEAT and we can&#8217;t.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Melyssa</title>
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		<dc:creator>Melyssa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Aug 2008 20:13:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Think Again...please visit the HFFT blog and read about the &quot;Obama Camp&quot;.  What we published on HFFT is not even the tip of the iceberg of the 1000&#039;s of first hand voter fraud reports published and video testimonies available on the internet.  MSM won&#039;t touch it. 
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MSM has its orders.  The NEOCONS screwed up too much.  We&#039;re getting the SOCIALISTS and corporatism instead.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Think Again&#8230;please visit the HFFT blog and read about the &#8220;Obama Camp&#8221;.  What we published on HFFT is not even the tip of the iceberg of the 1000&#8217;s of first hand voter fraud reports published and video testimonies available on the internet.  MSM won&#8217;t touch it.<br />
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MSM has its orders.  The NEOCONS screwed up too much.  We&#8217;re getting the SOCIALISTS and corporatism instead.</p>
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		<title>By: Taxpayer 834512</title>
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		<dc:creator>Taxpayer 834512</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Aug 2008 18:10:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Our candidates aren&#039;t talking about the U.S. debt because it doesn&#039;t help them get (re)elected- yet.  It&#039;s not sexy.  It&#039;s not largess they can ladle out like lower taxes, a new dam project, or expanded health care (irregardless of affordability).  With more publicity like I.O.U.S.A., more people determined to publicize the crisis (like Melyssa &amp; Libertarians), and unfortunately more dire statistics, perhaps somebody can get elected on fiscal conservatism.  Our democratic republic that&#039;s fixated on juvenile, two-party clod-throwing is going to look pretty bogus when the totalitarian and oligarchy regimes can eat and we can&#039;t.  The most basic law is that of survival, and that&#039;s what we think we&#039;re smarter than if we ignore economics.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Our candidates aren&#8217;t talking about the U.S. debt because it doesn&#8217;t help them get (re)elected- yet.  It&#8217;s not sexy.  It&#8217;s not largess they can ladle out like lower taxes, a new dam project, or expanded health care (irregardless of affordability).  With more publicity like I.O.U.S.A., more people determined to publicize the crisis (like Melyssa &amp; Libertarians), and unfortunately more dire statistics, perhaps somebody can get elected on fiscal conservatism.  Our democratic republic that&#8217;s fixated on juvenile, two-party clod-throwing is going to look pretty bogus when the totalitarian and oligarchy regimes can eat and we can&#8217;t.  The most basic law is that of survival, and that&#8217;s what we think we&#8217;re smarter than if we ignore economics.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike Kole</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike Kole</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Aug 2008 16:39:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Think Again- Okay, so you dodged with a little bait &amp; switch. It doesn&#039;t answer the question, though.

Notice that I didn&#039;t name NYC, because it hadn&#039;t had a consistent Democratic leadership. That said, I&#039;ve had it argued to me that NYC cleaned up under Giuliani enough that the tourists came back. That&#039;s some kind of progress that Detroit, Cleveland, and Chicago can&#039;t claim. Yes, too much government there for me to like, but I hardly think that&#039;s Giuliani&#039;s fault. Bloomberg is more guilty on that count.

I&#039;m not crazy about Republicans, my friend. They give me far more government than I want as well. They&#039;re about to have a lot less to do with it, come January, so I&#039;d like to know what good the Dems have to offer. Their track record in these cities does not inspire hope.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Think Again- Okay, so you dodged with a little bait &amp; switch. It doesn&#8217;t answer the question, though.</p>
<p>Notice that I didn&#8217;t name NYC, because it hadn&#8217;t had a consistent Democratic leadership. That said, I&#8217;ve had it argued to me that NYC cleaned up under Giuliani enough that the tourists came back. That&#8217;s some kind of progress that Detroit, Cleveland, and Chicago can&#8217;t claim. Yes, too much government there for me to like, but I hardly think that&#8217;s Giuliani&#8217;s fault. Bloomberg is more guilty on that count.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not crazy about Republicans, my friend. They give me far more government than I want as well. They&#8217;re about to have a lot less to do with it, come January, so I&#8217;d like to know what good the Dems have to offer. Their track record in these cities does not inspire hope.</p>
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		<title>By: Melyssa</title>
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		<dc:creator>Melyssa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Aug 2008 14:05:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Mike.  It is logic.  And Biden isn&#039;t about &quot;change&quot;.  Look at your credit card statements if you still have debt.  Don&#039;t they all come from Biden&#039;s state of Delaware?  Why do you think those predatory credit card companies locate in Biden&#039;s state?  If you don&#039;t think we&#039;re getting more of the same with Obama/Biden, you need to read more. 
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Biden, a career politician in office for almost 4 decades, does not represent this supposed positive change Obama will bring. 
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Not one of our presidential candidates is talking about leading America out of debt either.  WAKE UP!  There is a reason the U.S. Comptroller quit his job to travel to every state to put on town hall meetings to warn us of the debt.  
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We need a plan, and one fast, to get America on her feet.  She&#039;s deep in debt and Russia and China are flush with cold hard cash. 
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Again, why aren&#039;t our candidates (other than Barr) talking about this.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Mike.  It is logic.  And Biden isn&#8217;t about &#8220;change&#8221;.  Look at your credit card statements if you still have debt.  Don&#8217;t they all come from Biden&#8217;s state of Delaware?  Why do you think those predatory credit card companies locate in Biden&#8217;s state?  If you don&#8217;t think we&#8217;re getting more of the same with Obama/Biden, you need to read more.<br />
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Biden, a career politician in office for almost 4 decades, does not represent this supposed positive change Obama will bring.<br />
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Not one of our presidential candidates is talking about leading America out of debt either.  WAKE UP!  There is a reason the U.S. Comptroller quit his job to travel to every state to put on town hall meetings to warn us of the debt.<br />
.<br />
We need a plan, and one fast, to get America on her feet.  She&#8217;s deep in debt and Russia and China are flush with cold hard cash.<br />
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Again, why aren&#8217;t our candidates (other than Barr) talking about this.</p>
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		<title>By: Think Again</title>
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		<dc:creator>Think Again</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Aug 2008 12:24:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah Mike that wild-eyed Democratic liberal Blomberg, and his predecessor Guiliani...oops.

More government than any other city in America, right there in NYC.  Imposed, mostly by those two mayors.

Some Republicans like govt. so much they&#039;re just going to buy it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah Mike that wild-eyed Democratic liberal Blomberg, and his predecessor Guiliani&#8230;oops.</p>
<p>More government than any other city in America, right there in NYC.  Imposed, mostly by those two mayors.</p>
<p>Some Republicans like govt. so much they&#8217;re just going to buy it.</p>
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		<title>By: KC</title>
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		<dc:creator>KC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Aug 2008 03:51:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I will Obama credit for conning Indiana and Virginia, voters into thinking he was considering Bayh and Kaine for VP.  He needs the electoral votes from Indiana and Virginia. To keep the voters on his hook he made a phone call to the disappointed Indiana delegation seeking their continued support even though Bayh was not his choice.

The news broke on Channel 8 TV around 12:59 AM Saturday morning about Biden for VP and most of his supporters received the text message about 3:30 AM.

Now we will finally see what Obama really stands for.  No change from selecting a veteran Washington insider to balance his lack of experience in foriegn policy and military ability.  It is politics as usual and the democrats will continue to blame the Republicans for repeating all of the negative statements his democrats opponents said about him during the primary elections.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I will Obama credit for conning Indiana and Virginia, voters into thinking he was considering Bayh and Kaine for VP.  He needs the electoral votes from Indiana and Virginia. To keep the voters on his hook he made a phone call to the disappointed Indiana delegation seeking their continued support even though Bayh was not his choice.</p>
<p>The news broke on Channel 8 TV around 12:59 AM Saturday morning about Biden for VP and most of his supporters received the text message about 3:30 AM.</p>
<p>Now we will finally see what Obama really stands for.  No change from selecting a veteran Washington insider to balance his lack of experience in foriegn policy and military ability.  It is politics as usual and the democrats will continue to blame the Republicans for repeating all of the negative statements his democrats opponents said about him during the primary elections.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike Kole</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike Kole</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Aug 2008 23:38:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think Melyssa&#039;s comment about Democrats largely running America&#039;s cities is worth noting. If Democratic policies were working, how come Detroit, DC, Chicago, and Cleveland- all of which have had Democratic Mayors AND Democratic Councils for the past 20+ years each- haven&#039;t shown marked improvement in areas Democrats are supposed to own the field in, such as poverty and employment?

I think it&#039;s a very fair question, and one that begs a few books.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think Melyssa&#8217;s comment about Democrats largely running America&#8217;s cities is worth noting. If Democratic policies were working, how come Detroit, DC, Chicago, and Cleveland- all of which have had Democratic Mayors AND Democratic Councils for the past 20+ years each- haven&#8217;t shown marked improvement in areas Democrats are supposed to own the field in, such as poverty and employment?</p>
<p>I think it&#8217;s a very fair question, and one that begs a few books.</p>
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		<title>By: Excuse me but..</title>
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		<dc:creator>Excuse me but..</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Aug 2008 23:25:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Abdul,

Mitt would make a great president and you are probably right that McCain will select him but with BO snubbing women (especially Hillary..ouch) with his selection when the polls were showing that older women weren&#039;t too crazy about him before his VP pick, well if McCain were really smart he would trump BO and choose a woman as his VP. Who could be more qualified than Condi Rice? I guess she&#039;s not interested. Too bad.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Abdul,</p>
<p>Mitt would make a great president and you are probably right that McCain will select him but with BO snubbing women (especially Hillary..ouch) with his selection when the polls were showing that older women weren&#8217;t too crazy about him before his VP pick, well if McCain were really smart he would trump BO and choose a woman as his VP. Who could be more qualified than Condi Rice? I guess she&#8217;s not interested. Too bad.</p>
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