8 Responses to I’m Not a Hillary Fan, But…

1. Jon G
   August 26th, 2008 at 11:32 pm

   I was in the other room (can’t stomach the lady) when her speech was on and all I kept hearing out of her mouth was the word ‘fight.’ Lets get a little more positive please. We’re all in this together so lets get along and quite ‘fighting.’

2. Angry Taxpayer
   August 27th, 2008 at 6:28 am

   The Democrats vs Republicans again! Lest we forget; historically, more jobs and economic opportunities for citizens in this country were created by Republican officeholders along with the passage of major civil rights legislation for minorities and women. President Bill Clinton signed the NAFTA Agreement into law during his second term in office and jobs went south of the border and out of the country.
   More empty promises for the working poor and impoverished citizens from the Democrats.
   “To teach a hungry man how to fish would allow him to feed himself daily. Give him a fish and he will eat for one day and depend on others to provide for him.”
   Democrat officeholders have controlled many of the urban centers across the country for over 50 years. The Dems have always appealed to uninformed poor white and black citizens for their votes. The poverty level has not been improved under their political leadership. Yet, the Dems publically blames republican administrations for their sound policies of fiscal responsibility and hard work. Democrats have supported spending billions of our tax dollars for deadened social programs for the poor with no plans for upward mobility. These programs helped to maintain them in their present condition and helped to increase the poverty levels of citizens more than to eliminate it. They have not resolved one economic problem in those communities, but have perpetuated the problems to remain in control politically. Say it isn’t so!

3. Think Again
   August 27th, 2008 at 6:28 am

   She couldnb’t win last night…

   She and Bil have behaved like spoiled rejected first graders since March.

   If she’d been too passive, the Obama wing of the party would’ve killed her.

   I thought she hit a triple.

   Can’t stand the word “fight” ? Heard any of the ridiculous McCain commercials lately? They’re a street brawl. The Rove folks still control that party, and it’s a shame.

   You can’t go to a knife fight with a cap gun.

4. coupon cutter
   August 27th, 2008 at 7:26 am

   I am deeply disturbed with the quality of the candidates these two parties have served up to the American people. With 220 million people in this country this is the best they could come up with??? Almost from the beginning the party elites have been telling us who they want and pressing and pushing it. Both parties have had rejection of the elite choice and the dissent keeps getting silenced. I don’t believe we have a people’s government any more. It is sliding into a government/corporate control system. If our grandparents were alive today they would not recognize either of the parties. The democrats have this uber socialist agenda and the republicans can only think about imperialism and empire. All this at our expense, such a travesty. Two liberals running; one statist and one centrist.

5. Juno
   August 27th, 2008 at 9:36 am

   You’re right Coupon Cutter. Too bad there won’t be a “None of the Above” option on the ballot this year. Maybe we should consider that so these chuckleheads understand just how disgusted we are with these “choices”. A whole lot of time and money spent on this disappointing outcome.

6. Think Again
   August 27th, 2008 at 10:52 am

   Coupon is NOT correct.

   McCain beat his party machinery to win and I respect that. He’s wrong on too many issues for me, but he beat the snot out of the party establishment. He was dead in the water in January…remember? The GOP is holding their nose on McCain, and I for one think it’s hilarious.

   Obama did likewise. Clinton had the party establishment here and in most states sewn up.

   Oh yeah, wise up, Coupon. There are over 400 million people in this country. You’re 80 million or so short.

7. Joel
   August 27th, 2008 at 1:12 pm

   One exception to the Obama beating the Party Establishment. I certainly don’t understand the inner workings of the Dem Party establishment, but I still think that Kennedy (or The Kennedys) have to count as part of the Dem establishment–they were very early supporters of Obama. I would say that the Democrat establishment was divided on the race.
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   I won’t argue against the Republican situation, though the base is warming slowly to McCain.

8. Think Again
   August 28th, 2008 at 10:39 am

   Joel: The Kennedys are indeed Democratic royalty. But they control very little of the party structure and haven’t for decades. Admiration and feigning, yes. Control, except for Massachusetts, no.

   An overwhelming number of state chairs, including Indiana’s, and the attendant party structures, were or are direct descendents of the Clinton regime.

   The National Party structure, with Dean as chair, is a bit of an exception–Clinton actively fought the election of Dean. He sent that a–hole McCauliffe all over the country fighting Dean’s election. But Dean ran a grassroots National Committeee campaign and was not to be denied.

   Dean tried a 50-state strategy in 2006, which the Clintons and their lieutenants fought actively. They wanted all the resources directed to the top dozen or so “winnable” seats. Which they controlled. Dean’s strategy won out, barely, and I believe that was the party’s first inkling that the Clintonista machinery was dying out, power-wise. When the Dems took back Congress, it should’ve been a visible signal that the former top-down Clinton-dominated Order was on its way out.

   When Obama announced, there was exactly one state chair with him–Illinois, and that was not an enthusiastic endorsement.

   Iowa made believers out of the party elite, but by that time, Obama had already begun building his national network, which was, for the most part, outside that Clinton-dominated network.

   It’s a fascinating study of political battle.

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