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	<title>Comments on: THERE&#8217;S ANOTHER DISASTER COMING!!!</title>
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		<title>By: Shorebreak</title>
		<link>http://www.indianabarrister.com/archives/2008/06/theres_another_disaster_coming.html/comment-page-1#comment-10771</link>
		<dc:creator>Shorebreak</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Jun 2008 13:29:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To add to the last post, how about preceding the big picture coverage with an historical account of property taxes in Indiana - along the lines of Think Again&#039;s June 10th, 2008 at 8:37 am post.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To add to the last post, how about preceding the big picture coverage with an historical account of property taxes in Indiana &#8211; along the lines of Think Again&#8217;s June 10th, 2008 at 8:37 am post.</p>
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		<title>By: Taxpayer 834512</title>
		<link>http://www.indianabarrister.com/archives/2008/06/theres_another_disaster_coming.html/comment-page-1#comment-10768</link>
		<dc:creator>Taxpayer 834512</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Jun 2008 12:06:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Abdul- how about a programming segment on Property Taxes 101, covering big picture where we were pre-July last year to now.  I&#039;m overwhelmed with assessment theory, reconcilliation X vs Y, &amp; all the players pointing fingers at each other.  I bet I&#039;m not the only one.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Abdul- how about a programming segment on Property Taxes 101, covering big picture where we were pre-July last year to now.  I&#8217;m overwhelmed with assessment theory, reconcilliation X vs Y, &amp; all the players pointing fingers at each other.  I bet I&#8217;m not the only one.</p>
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		<title>By: Democrat</title>
		<link>http://www.indianabarrister.com/archives/2008/06/theres_another_disaster_coming.html/comment-page-1#comment-10767</link>
		<dc:creator>Democrat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Jun 2008 11:30:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>House ways and means chairman William Crawford, Dem,in District 98 needs to go.  He has been in office too, too, long. A high school dropout supporting township governemnt.  Specifically, Center township trustee Carl Drummer who has a $11 million surplus in the bank and turning way citizens needing poor relief assistance.
In November, he must go.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>House ways and means chairman William Crawford, Dem,in District 98 needs to go.  He has been in office too, too, long. A high school dropout supporting township governemnt.  Specifically, Center township trustee Carl Drummer who has a $11 million surplus in the bank and turning way citizens needing poor relief assistance.<br />
In November, he must go.</p>
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		<title>By: StatlernWaldorf</title>
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		<dc:creator>StatlernWaldorf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Jun 2008 01:53:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>P.S. Sorry for the long link. Pluck has screwed the links to the Star forums.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>P.S. Sorry for the long link. Pluck has screwed the links to the Star forums.</p>
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		<title>By: StatlernWaldorf</title>
		<link>http://www.indianabarrister.com/archives/2008/06/theres_another_disaster_coming.html/comment-page-1#comment-10765</link>
		<dc:creator>StatlernWaldorf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Jun 2008 01:52:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Let me be the first on this thread to call taxpayers to action in Decatur Township. They want $17million more for the high school project, all the while cutting education (true education) programs.
http://www.indystar.com/apps/pbcs.dll/section?category=PluckForum&amp;plckForumPage=ForumDiscussion&amp;plckDiscussionId=Cat%3a29075c98-f3da-4ba5-b7eb-bca8405169d3Forum%3ae62b19e7-c66a-4c33-8cad-0cb64c00c8d1Discussion%3a4f34072b-571a-44f7-ad58-946b6e7bb59c&amp;plckCategoryCurrentPage=0</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Let me be the first on this thread to call taxpayers to action in Decatur Township. They want $17million more for the high school project, all the while cutting education (true education) programs.<br />
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		<title>By: Taxpayer 834512</title>
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		<dc:creator>Taxpayer 834512</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Jun 2008 01:17:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Whatever your guvmit is, or you want to call it, if production loses to consumption too long- you&#039;re going down.  I&#039;m approaching not caring about having a democratic republic as much as being afloat economically.  I think we&#039;ll always have the good, the lazy and the preying.  Somebody tell me what form of gov&#039;t has the best historical track record for rooting-out the lazy and the preyers, and I&#039;ll bet they fared ok economically.  I have a hunch that heterogeneous captialistic democratic republics are not leading historical success stories.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Whatever your guvmit is, or you want to call it, if production loses to consumption too long- you&#8217;re going down.  I&#8217;m approaching not caring about having a democratic republic as much as being afloat economically.  I think we&#8217;ll always have the good, the lazy and the preying.  Somebody tell me what form of gov&#8217;t has the best historical track record for rooting-out the lazy and the preyers, and I&#8217;ll bet they fared ok economically.  I have a hunch that heterogeneous captialistic democratic republics are not leading historical success stories.</p>
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		<title>By: Jon G</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jon G</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jun 2008 23:38:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>David Meyers.  Oh, there has been a group of us who have paid attention from the start.  And some of the other posters are right about one thing.....why are there incumbents still around?  That&#039;s exacltly why I say-
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REMEMBER NOVEMBER
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Lets start it all over again and get the bums oughta there!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>David Meyers.  Oh, there has been a group of us who have paid attention from the start.  And some of the other posters are right about one thing&#8230;..why are there incumbents still around?  That&#8217;s exacltly why I say-<br />
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REMEMBER NOVEMBER<br />
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Lets start it all over again and get the bums oughta there!!</p>
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		<title>By: Jerry</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jerry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jun 2008 23:05:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t think Mike Kole&#039;s comment can be dismissed as an empty socialism argument Think Again.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t think Mike Kole&#8217;s comment can be dismissed as an empty socialism argument Think Again.</p>
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		<title>By: Jacob</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jacob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jun 2008 21:48:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Instead of posting to blogs, just don&#039;t pay. Are you willing to do that?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Instead of posting to blogs, just don&#8217;t pay. Are you willing to do that?</p>
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		<title>By: Think Again</title>
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		<dc:creator>Think Again</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jun 2008 21:18:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Can we please stop the Socialism arguments?  Study up--this is nowhere near socialism.

It IS stupidity, but...we voted for &#039;em.

A citizen redistricting commission can work.  ANYthing except the current system can work.  Take a look at the Indy CC Council districts:

At last   (2003)redistricting, controlled by Republicans, Dems fought, it went to court, and, in a shocker, Judge Cale Bradford, whose brother was running for council as a Republican, said the maps and ballot placement were fine.  

The ink wasn&#039;t dry on his decision until the Court of Appeals slapped him real hard--read that opinion if you want a primer in Courts 101.  

And Bradford&#039;s reward?  He&#039;s now on the Court of Appeals, thanks to Mitch.  You protect your brother in a blatantly partisan, wrong-headed decision, and this is how you&#039;re rewarded.  Freaking amazing.

But I digress.  The appeals court demanded that a judicial panel redo the CCC district lines.  They did, in about two weeks, using simple mapping software that cost $400.  And guess what?  Instead of 18 of 25 being safe Republican, the council switched was 14-11 Republican on the district side.  (Dems won control because they won all 4 at large seats, or 15-14 overall)

And last year, voters, narrowly, reversed that.

Given proper districts, with decent  boundaries and as close-to-equal splits as possible, we can have better government.

In short: incumbents should have zippo to do with creating the districts in which they run.

(Stepping off soapbox)
(going to dinner)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Can we please stop the Socialism arguments?  Study up&#8211;this is nowhere near socialism.</p>
<p>It IS stupidity, but&#8230;we voted for &#8216;em.</p>
<p>A citizen redistricting commission can work.  ANYthing except the current system can work.  Take a look at the Indy CC Council districts:</p>
<p>At last   (2003)redistricting, controlled by Republicans, Dems fought, it went to court, and, in a shocker, Judge Cale Bradford, whose brother was running for council as a Republican, said the maps and ballot placement were fine.  </p>
<p>The ink wasn&#8217;t dry on his decision until the Court of Appeals slapped him real hard&#8211;read that opinion if you want a primer in Courts 101.  </p>
<p>And Bradford&#8217;s reward?  He&#8217;s now on the Court of Appeals, thanks to Mitch.  You protect your brother in a blatantly partisan, wrong-headed decision, and this is how you&#8217;re rewarded.  Freaking amazing.</p>
<p>But I digress.  The appeals court demanded that a judicial panel redo the CCC district lines.  They did, in about two weeks, using simple mapping software that cost $400.  And guess what?  Instead of 18 of 25 being safe Republican, the council switched was 14-11 Republican on the district side.  (Dems won control because they won all 4 at large seats, or 15-14 overall)</p>
<p>And last year, voters, narrowly, reversed that.</p>
<p>Given proper districts, with decent  boundaries and as close-to-equal splits as possible, we can have better government.</p>
<p>In short: incumbents should have zippo to do with creating the districts in which they run.</p>
<p>(Stepping off soapbox)<br />
(going to dinner)</p>
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