Comments on: WITH FRIENDS LIKE THESE http://www.indianabarrister.com/archives/2008/05/with_friends_like_these.html Indiana Barrister is the source for local Indianapolis and Indiana news, politics and commentary. Thu, 09 Feb 2012 01:17:00 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: Shorebreak http://www.indianabarrister.com/archives/2008/05/with_friends_like_these.html/comment-page-1#comment-10577 Shorebreak Tue, 03 Jun 2008 14:53:48 +0000 http://www.indianabarrister.com/?p=1206#comment-10577 Keeping in mind that the majority of intelligence operations are the presentation of disinformation, and the fact that the entire sale of the Iraq war to the American people was (and still is) part of a broad-based psy-ops program, I wouldn't be surprised if McClellan's book is part of a broader disinformation scheme. . Sounds far fetched? Consider this: . Under the direction of the Bush Administration, the office of the US Trade Representative began an aggressive implementation plan to unite the entire Middle East under the Middle East Free Trade Agreement. http://www.state.gov/r/pa/scp/2006/68237.htm . Logic dictates that in order to implement such a plan with a 2013 completion date, any and all national leaderships who are resistant to economic integration would need to be replaced with complicit governments. Logic also dictates that you need to conduct a campaign that would generate popular public support for the necessary military actions. . So where does the McClellan book fit into the MEFTA plan? If you look into the specific terms and implementation steps that each member nation needs to take, the key theme that stands out is that the entire process is conducted to bring member nations in compliance with an array of UN political, economic, and security objectives. The MEFTA plan was introduced by the Bush White House, but in reality, it's goal is to bring the Middle East region under the control of the UN. Tom Brokaw and Diane Sawyer don't mention it because they'd get fired. Anyone who can add 2 + 2 would easily make the Iraq/MEFTA connection. Read the MEFTA documents and draw your own conclusions. . So essentially, the McClellan book ultimately serves the purposes of the Bush Administration. Once the entire case is presented that the US illegally invaded Iraq based upon a series of lies and media complicity, a new "coalition" of UN nations can unite to rebuild the region, and save the rest of the Middle East from further US aggression. . It's a "good cop, bad cop" ploy, using our kids and our national economy as the cannon fodder. The US presence will eventually be replaced with a UN presence. The problem for us is that there are still nations like Syria and Iran who demand to maintain independence and sovereignty. Until their leaderships are eliminated, the UN won't have full control over the region. Which means that we can expect to be provided further "justification" to squander US lives and the US economy in support of a UN agenda to implement a single globalist system. Keeping in mind that the majority of intelligence operations are the presentation of disinformation, and the fact that the entire sale of the Iraq war to the American people was (and still is) part of a broad-based psy-ops program, I wouldn’t be surprised if McClellan’s book is part of a broader disinformation scheme.
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Sounds far fetched? Consider this:
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Under the direction of the Bush Administration, the office of the US Trade Representative began an aggressive implementation plan to unite the entire Middle East under the Middle East Free Trade Agreement.
http://www.state.gov/r/pa/scp/2006/68237.htm
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Logic dictates that in order to implement such a plan with a 2013 completion date, any and all national leaderships who are resistant to economic integration would need to be replaced with complicit governments. Logic also dictates that you need to conduct a campaign that would generate popular public support for the necessary military actions.
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So where does the McClellan book fit into the MEFTA plan? If you look into the specific terms and implementation steps that each member nation needs to take, the key theme that stands out is that the entire process is conducted to bring member nations in compliance with an array of UN political, economic, and security objectives. The MEFTA plan was introduced by the Bush White House, but in reality, it’s goal is to bring the Middle East region under the control of the UN. Tom Brokaw and Diane Sawyer don’t mention it because they’d get fired. Anyone who can add 2 + 2 would easily make the Iraq/MEFTA connection. Read the MEFTA documents and draw your own conclusions.
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So essentially, the McClellan book ultimately serves the purposes of the Bush Administration. Once the entire case is presented that the US illegally invaded Iraq based upon a series of lies and media complicity, a new “coalition” of UN nations can unite to rebuild the region, and save the rest of the Middle East from further US aggression.
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It’s a “good cop, bad cop” ploy, using our kids and our national economy as the cannon fodder. The US presence will eventually be replaced with a UN presence. The problem for us is that there are still nations like Syria and Iran who demand to maintain independence and sovereignty. Until their leaderships are eliminated, the UN won’t have full control over the region. Which means that we can expect to be provided further “justification” to squander US lives and the US economy in support of a UN agenda to implement a single globalist system.

]]> By: Think Again http://www.indianabarrister.com/archives/2008/05/with_friends_like_these.html/comment-page-1#comment-10477 Think Again Wed, 28 May 2008 21:57:00 +0000 http://www.indianabarrister.com/?p=1206#comment-10477 Truman left office with a horrid approval rating because he dared to stand tall against a peacock general who was enormously popular. With a small passage of time, it was soon learned that Truman was judicious with his temperment, and, like Ike, he sorely distrusted the military-industrial complex. He loved the troops, and what they could do. But he generally mistrusted (no pun intended) the brass and their after-life employers (defense contractors). He was a wise man. Bush--well, let's just say history is already making its call. It ain't pretty. Truman left office with a horrid approval rating because he dared to stand tall against a peacock general who was enormously popular. With a small passage of time, it was soon learned that Truman was judicious with his temperment, and, like Ike, he sorely distrusted the military-industrial complex.

He loved the troops, and what they could do. But he generally mistrusted (no pun intended) the brass and their after-life employers (defense contractors).

He was a wise man.

Bush–well, let’s just say history is already making its call. It ain’t pretty.

]]> By: James http://www.indianabarrister.com/archives/2008/05/with_friends_like_these.html/comment-page-1#comment-10475 James Wed, 28 May 2008 20:37:39 +0000 http://www.indianabarrister.com/?p=1206#comment-10475 In this like many other areas, Bush could have taken a lesson from Harry Truman. Not one member of his administration came out with nasty tell all book like we are seeeing and will see come forth from this administration. Perhaps if Bush governed more like Truman, he wouldn't have this problem. Both Bush and Truman will leave office with horrible approval ratings. I think history will not be as kind to Bush as it has been to Truman. In this like many other areas, Bush could have taken a lesson from Harry Truman. Not one member of his administration came out with nasty tell all book like we are seeeing and will see come forth from this administration. Perhaps if Bush governed more like Truman, he wouldn’t have this problem. Both Bush and Truman will leave office with horrible approval ratings. I think history will not be as kind to Bush as it has been to Truman.

]]> By: Taxpayer 834512 http://www.indianabarrister.com/archives/2008/05/with_friends_like_these.html/comment-page-1#comment-10474 Taxpayer 834512 Wed, 28 May 2008 19:22:33 +0000 http://www.indianabarrister.com/?p=1206#comment-10474 Which part of "correct on the immigration problem" are you referring to? The part where the emergency rooms are packed with those seeking free medical care and having anchor babies? Or, is it the part where employers are basically getting a free pass to illegally employ non-citizens, at the depression of wages such as my formerly bricklaying brother-in-law? Or, would it be the still ineffectual disregard for borders following loss of two skyscrapers in New York City? Losing jobs, income, and infrastructure to fair competition or technological evolution is one thing. Leading us to into class warfare and the drainage of fiscal and natural resources (as quickly as possible) make any rodent a better choice. Blind, deaf, dumb, Chip, or Dale..... Which part of “correct on the immigration problem” are you referring to? The part where the emergency rooms are packed with those seeking free medical care and having anchor babies? Or, is it the part where employers are basically getting a free pass to illegally employ non-citizens, at the depression of wages such as my formerly bricklaying brother-in-law? Or, would it be the still ineffectual disregard for borders following loss of two skyscrapers in New York City? Losing jobs, income, and infrastructure to fair competition or technological evolution is one thing. Leading us to into class warfare and the drainage of fiscal and natural resources (as quickly as possible) make any rodent a better choice. Blind, deaf, dumb, Chip, or Dale…..

]]> By: Really http://www.indianabarrister.com/archives/2008/05/with_friends_like_these.html/comment-page-1#comment-10473 Really Wed, 28 May 2008 19:01:31 +0000 http://www.indianabarrister.com/?p=1206#comment-10473 SHOW ME THE MONEY!!!! I mean WEAPONS OF MASS DESTRUCTION IN IRAQ. SHOW ME THE MONEY!!!! I mean WEAPONS OF MASS DESTRUCTION IN IRAQ.

]]> By: Melyssa http://www.indianabarrister.com/archives/2008/05/with_friends_like_these.html/comment-page-1#comment-10472 Melyssa Wed, 28 May 2008 17:46:08 +0000 http://www.indianabarrister.com/?p=1206#comment-10472 And much, much more is going to come out about Bush. When the pain of skyrocketing food costs hits later this year on top of soaring property tax bills, foreclosures,and gas prices, you have the perfect storm on a global scale. Will there finally be a revolution? I hope so, but after what I witnessed last year with the property tax crisis, I am not particularly optimistic that people will do anything. None of our presidential candidates posess what I would call real honor or integrity. All are sellouts. And much, much more is going to come out about Bush. When the pain of skyrocketing food costs hits later this year on top of soaring property tax bills, foreclosures,and gas prices, you have the perfect storm on a global scale. Will there finally be a revolution? I hope so, but after what I witnessed last year with the property tax crisis, I am not particularly optimistic that people will do anything. None of our presidential candidates posess what I would call real honor or integrity. All are sellouts.

]]> By: Think Again http://www.indianabarrister.com/archives/2008/05/with_friends_like_these.html/comment-page-1#comment-10471 Think Again Wed, 28 May 2008 17:34:57 +0000 http://www.indianabarrister.com/?p=1206#comment-10471 Huh? That HAS to be the same Jerry who babbles on incoherantly on Abdul's show. HUNDREDS of billions? What kinda crack are you smoking? The two issues don't link. Some important issues do, but these two don't. Melyssa is right, to a large degree...although the human toll is more important to me than the monetary cost. Human, in terms of: lives lost on both sides, and: the loss of respect for the US around the world. Ask anyone who travels for business, works for the government in overseas roles, or something similar. George W. Bush has single-handedly set ouor image back 50 years. Or more. The fiscal cost has been enonrmous. Just as our economy starts to head south, the federal government is first to the borrowing window to fund this insane war. Take a course in basic economics and you get a quick idea how destructive that is. What a pathetic president he has been. Ironically, he's more correct on the immigration problem than almost anything he's ever done. Even a blind squirrel can find an acorn once in awhile, huh? Huh? That HAS to be the same Jerry who babbles on incoherantly on Abdul’s show.

HUNDREDS of billions? What kinda crack are you smoking?

The two issues don’t link. Some important issues do, but these two don’t. Melyssa is right, to a large degree…although the human toll is more important to me than the monetary cost.

Human, in terms of: lives lost on both sides, and: the loss of respect for the US around the world. Ask anyone who travels for business, works for the government in overseas roles, or something similar. George W. Bush has single-handedly set ouor image back 50 years. Or more.

The fiscal cost has been enonrmous. Just as our economy starts to head south, the federal government is first to the borrowing window to fund this insane war. Take a course in basic economics and you get a quick idea how destructive that is.

What a pathetic president he has been. Ironically, he’s more correct on the immigration problem than almost anything he’s ever done.

Even a blind squirrel can find an acorn once in awhile, huh?

]]> By: Jerry http://www.indianabarrister.com/archives/2008/05/with_friends_like_these.html/comment-page-1#comment-10468 Jerry Wed, 28 May 2008 16:13:44 +0000 http://www.indianabarrister.com/?p=1206#comment-10468 Uh, illegal immigrants cost us hundreds of billions of dollars a year . . . so don't be crying about the war unless you're crying equally as loud (or much louder) about illegal immigrants. Uh, illegal immigrants cost us hundreds of billions of dollars a year . . . so don’t be crying about the war unless you’re crying equally as loud (or much louder) about illegal immigrants.

]]> By: Melyssa http://www.indianabarrister.com/archives/2008/05/with_friends_like_these.html/comment-page-1#comment-10467 Melyssa Wed, 28 May 2008 16:03:20 +0000 http://www.indianabarrister.com/?p=1206#comment-10467 Any citizen's loyalty should first be to the American people, particularly when the president is not loyal to the people. We were duped. God knows how much this cursed war is going to cost the taxpayers. Any citizen’s loyalty should first be to the American people, particularly when the president is not loyal to the people. We were duped. God knows how much this cursed war is going to cost the taxpayers.

]]> By: Think Again http://www.indianabarrister.com/archives/2008/05/with_friends_like_these.html/comment-page-1#comment-10457 Think Again Wed, 28 May 2008 12:45:43 +0000 http://www.indianabarrister.com/?p=1206#comment-10457 Loyalty is a difficult thing to earn, and even more difficult to maintain. I detest everything W stands for, but admired, until now, the fierce (even blind) loyalty of those around him. Scott came with W from Texas. They were/are close. Regardless how you view loyalty--and I admire it even among political enemies--is anyone really prepared, given the evidence available today, to say Scott is lying? Nope. Cause you'll look stupid. A contrived multi-level marketing scheme gave us Iraq. NOT solid military or intellegence strategy. History is already being written on this miserable president, and it isn't kind at all. Two days after Memorial Day, as much as I don't like W, I get no particular joy from this revelation. Nobody wins--we all lose, and Osama is no closer to being found. God help us. Loyalty is a difficult thing to earn, and even more difficult to maintain. I detest everything W stands for, but admired, until now, the fierce (even blind) loyalty of those around him.

Scott came with W from Texas. They were/are close.

Regardless how you view loyalty–and I admire it even among political enemies–is anyone really prepared, given the evidence available today, to say Scott is lying?

Nope. Cause you’ll look stupid.

A contrived multi-level marketing scheme gave us Iraq. NOT solid military or intellegence strategy. History is already being written on this miserable president, and it isn’t kind at all.

Two days after Memorial Day, as much as I don’t like W, I get no particular joy from this revelation. Nobody wins–we all lose, and Osama is no closer to being found. God help us.

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