Comments on: THERE’S GOT TO BE A MORNING AFTER

By: Mike

Mike — Thu, 08 May 2008 03:35:28 +0000

Black, white, rich, poor, rural, educated, What difference does it make? If that is what elections are about, then we are doomed anyway. Statistically speaking, the guy that wants to get rid of the IRS doesnt win because of the Brilliant marketing campaign of you will be throwing your vote away, still exists. Until this mentallity stops, forget about it. This election like the others is nothing but a popularity contest. Thats all you have. These people run ads to sell you something, no different than a car commercial. The only reason these millionares set foot in Indiana is because they wanted something from you that they need, and in return guess what you will get. More of the same. None of these millionares have said one thing that you havent heard before.

By: Jon G

Jon G — Thu, 08 May 2008 03:03:40 +0000

My 16 year old son came home from school today and told me that he thought of a good line for a bumper sticker….”If Hillary wasn’t good enough for Bill, she’s not good enough for me.”
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At least he’s paying attention.

By: patriot paul

patriot paul — Wed, 07 May 2008 18:05:26 +0000

As I indicated earlier, Indiana has an open primary. You are allowed to vote at your discretion with little challenge as we just witnessed. I was given freedom on choice on whether I wanted a “d” ballot or an “r” ballot at 6:30 am. when I visited the polls and voted. The media has confirmed few challenges throughout the districts.
When the partisonship dies down, check out the statistics of race, seniors vs.young, educated vs.those without, those who sold their soul for a half tank of gas, those who allowed someone’s former pastor’s remarks to poison their thinking, and so on. We have identity politics at work, including the politics of fear. The Washington Post and other statistics are available on line & have the analysis of how our citizens and those of N.Carolina voted. Draw your own conclusions.

By: really

really — Wed, 07 May 2008 17:03:35 +0000

And the real winners are…..
Media and political pundits, like Abbie. Now I get to listen to him (and others ie Rush, Garrison, etc.) flap their all knowing gums about every politico’s whisker and fart until November. God (er Allah) help us.

By: Joel

Joel — Wed, 07 May 2008 16:45:32 +0000

“Joel–your view of potentially anti-female or racist votes, may have been true four months ago. But Barack Obama has transformed the way we do politics in this country. And his campaign has gotten beyond the narrow framework you describe.”
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I have not described a narrow framework. My first paragraph was despair of how people interpret those voting against their candidate.
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Obama has emphatically NOT “transformed the way we do politics in this country.” He has been engaged in identity politics from the beginning. How is this different? There is nothing more typical of politicians than the entire batch that we have now (Hillary, Obama and McCain).

By: Greg

Greg — Wed, 07 May 2008 16:24:30 +0000

Very interesting, all the responses listed here. Why can we not find such depth of thought in the general population? Regardless of which side of the aisle you are from, we should all be concerned with some of the incumbents being reelected to represent us. Proof in my opinion that the voters are mostly sheep. Carson is beyond belief, given the competition. Burton? Same thing. Why will this country need a major political disaster before the sheep notice that they are the root cause.

By: Melyssa

Melyssa — Wed, 07 May 2008 15:43:05 +0000

This is how Ballard got elected. A relentless negative campaign against Peterson was run by activists and bloggers who united together across party lines.
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My goal was to keep the activists’ antics in the news week after week. The media was helpful to us. (More so than they are now).
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The factions who wanted Bart out met at the property tax protests I organized. We all worked together and networked each other and stayed in constant communication.
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For the most part, I quit the activism work in February due to personal reasons and no longer give it the 40+ hours a week I used to give it.

By: Think Again

Think Again — Wed, 07 May 2008 15:32:07 +0000

Patriot Paul, gentle blogger, if you understood Indiana law, you’d know my comments were indeed properly directed.

I didn’t say I liked the current primary system. But it is the law. It is a closed priamry system for a reason. Choosing a party has ramifications in all directions.

I am old enough to remember convention systems for picking many nominees. It worked OK, but it had its problems, too.

Joel–your view of potentially anti-female or racist votes, may have been true four months ago. But Barack Obama has transformed the way we do politics in this country. And his campaign has gotten beyond the narrow framework you describe. Just ask around.

This cannot be denied, and I’d never have given you a plug nickel for his chances 16 months ago, but: A one-term senator from Illinois early-on rejected the traditional DC ways, to run a true grassroots campaign. Whether you love his views or detest them, there is no doubt: he has raised more money than any candidate in history, and 90% of it or more is from average Joes and Josephines. Who can and will give again and again.

Hillary bet on the insiders, raising a lot of money up-front from them.

Both candidates gambled. It turned into a classic tortoise/hare race. Who knew?

He gambled, and it paid off. He could just as easily be having a liesurely DC lunch with Joe Biden and Chris Dodd today, on the sidelines, wondering “what if?” He judged the mood of the nation was anti-DC, and he’s right.

By: CJ

CJ — Wed, 07 May 2008 15:13:02 +0000

Given the very specific demographics of the 7th District showing a clear majority white population Andre Carson could not have won with only the black vote.
And, if Operation Chaos was that effective you certainly would not have known it in Marion County.
The voting trend we saw yesterday may in fcat be the voting trend come November.
Don’t give Rush and Operatin Chaos more than they deserve. Most Hoosier voters, like myself, ain’t that damn smart.
McCain and the GOP may in fact have beem the real losers last night.

By: Joel

Joel — Wed, 07 May 2008 14:13:12 +0000

Here is the difficulty in the Democratic primary this year: if you vote against Hillary you hate women; if you vote against Obama you are racist.
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Yes, there are some of both. But there are other valid reasons why even honest, good thinking Democrats would reject one or the other of these two. I don’t think that I have seen any specific evidence to believe that racism or sexism played a major role in yesterday’s results.
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Operation Chaos was spectacularly successful yesterday. In the precinct that I was in yesterday, I believe Clinton received 20-30 votes from Republicans that will not vote for any Democrat in the fall. It is easy to believe that without Operation Chaos, Obama would have easily won Indiana. But the true objective of Operation Chaos is to make the Democrats to take the primary to the convention, which is exactly what is happening. Of course this is no different than Democrats switching to the Republican side in New Hampshire to vote for McCain.