Comments on: RULES OF ENGAGEMENT http://www.indianabarrister.com/archives/2008/03/rules_of_engagement.html Indiana Barrister is the source for local Indianapolis and Indiana news, politics and commentary. Thu, 09 Feb 2012 01:17:00 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: Bart Flies http://www.indianabarrister.com/archives/2008/03/rules_of_engagement.html/comment-page-1#comment-7663 Bart Flies Mon, 03 Mar 2008 23:51:34 +0000 http://www.indianabarrister.com/archives/2008/03/rules_of_engagement.html#comment-7663 Abdul- What would you have said if Democrat Vernon Brown had voted to take the fire department away from a Republican and give it to a Democrat and then got a promotion within weeks? Please, please, please don't tell me that you would not have written about it. Abdul-

What would you have said if Democrat Vernon Brown had voted to take the fire department away from a Republican and give it to a Democrat and then got a promotion within weeks?

Please, please, please don’t tell me that you would not have written about it.

]]> By: Taxpayer 834512 http://www.indianabarrister.com/archives/2008/03/rules_of_engagement.html/comment-page-1#comment-7652 Taxpayer 834512 Mon, 03 Mar 2008 20:57:14 +0000 http://www.indianabarrister.com/archives/2008/03/rules_of_engagement.html#comment-7652 1)Full-time Councilmen: more time for issues, mischief, and expensive 2)Part-time Councilmen not working for the city: less time for issues and mischief, and cheaper 3)Part-time Councilmen working for the city: less time for issues, potential for conflict of interest, but cheaper. I vote for option 2 and believe Kernan-Shepard does as well. Given the trade-offs I perceive, I'm not sold on the virtues of a "professional political class" person behind every desk. 1)Full-time Councilmen: more time for issues, mischief, and expensive
2)Part-time Councilmen not working for the city: less time for issues and mischief, and cheaper
3)Part-time Councilmen working for the city: less time for issues, potential for conflict of interest, but cheaper.
I vote for option 2 and believe Kernan-Shepard does as well. Given the trade-offs I perceive, I’m not sold on the virtues of a “professional political class” person behind every desk.

]]> By: Jon G http://www.indianabarrister.com/archives/2008/03/rules_of_engagement.html/comment-page-1#comment-7648 Jon G Mon, 03 Mar 2008 18:24:30 +0000 http://www.indianabarrister.com/archives/2008/03/rules_of_engagement.html#comment-7648 Wilson - You should stop using Monroe Gray as benchmark for fine Democrats, well.....maybe he is the standard......huh! Monroe Gray getting elected just proves what is wrong with the system and how bad it has gotten.....when a guy like that can hood wink the voters.......I don't know, I just loose faith. But then we elected Mayor Ballard, maybe there is hope after all. - Like I said before, if Ballard makes an appointment and it isn't working for whatever reason, the true test will be what he does about it. - REMEMBER NOVEMBER Wilson
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You should stop using Monroe Gray as benchmark for fine Democrats, well…..maybe he is the standard……huh! Monroe Gray getting elected just proves what is wrong with the system and how bad it has gotten…..when a guy like that can hood wink the voters…….I don’t know, I just loose faith. But then we elected Mayor Ballard, maybe there is hope after all.
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Like I said before, if Ballard makes an appointment and it isn’t working for whatever reason, the true test will be what he does about it.
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]]> By: Jon G http://www.indianabarrister.com/archives/2008/03/rules_of_engagement.html/comment-page-1#comment-7636 Jon G Mon, 03 Mar 2008 15:33:48 +0000 http://www.indianabarrister.com/archives/2008/03/rules_of_engagement.html#comment-7636 Aaron, In theory I totally agree with you. I think the problem is an integrity issue. The Ike Randolgh issue at last years CCC meeting where he tried to abstain from voting (I can't remember if it was a INPD or IFD issue) because of a conflict of interest is a case of dong the right thing. Unfortunately, not everyone could be counted on to do the right thing (someone like Monroe Gray for example). Maybe there could be provision that disallows someone from voting when there is a direct conflict of interest. Then anyone from any profession wouldn't be barred from serving in political office. Aaron,
In theory I totally agree with you. I think the problem is an integrity issue. The Ike Randolgh issue at last years CCC meeting where he tried to abstain from voting (I can’t remember if it was a INPD or IFD issue) because of a conflict of interest is a case of dong the right thing. Unfortunately, not everyone could be counted on to do the right thing (someone like Monroe Gray for example). Maybe there could be provision that disallows someone from voting when there is a direct conflict of interest. Then anyone from any profession wouldn’t be barred from serving in political office.

]]> By: Aaron Sullivan http://www.indianabarrister.com/archives/2008/03/rules_of_engagement.html/comment-page-1#comment-7626 Aaron Sullivan Mon, 03 Mar 2008 13:30:33 +0000 http://www.indianabarrister.com/archives/2008/03/rules_of_engagement.html#comment-7626 Barring anyone from seeking elected office based upon his or her lawful profession is wrong. This practice would not only deprive the city/county employee of their rights and since of duty, it would deprive the citizen/taxpayer of their rights and since of duty. City/County employees pay taxes, serve on jury duty, vote in elections and does their best to conform to society’s order. How can they be stripped of any single part of being a complete citizen? I have personally made a commitment to be a Police Officer and be involved in politics to advance my community. I not only believe it is my right, I believe it is my duty. In addition to the many skills and experiences a Police Officer brings to the decision making process, a particular Officer may have other skills and experiences outside of police work that make him or her the most qualified for the position. The citizen also has a duty and a right to vote for a candidate based on the citizen’s evaluation of that candidate’s merit for the position. The citizen should surely not be deprived of the best candidate to serve them because of that candidate’s lawful employment. Every citizen and every elected official has a right and duty to be “watchdogs” against any kind of corruption. We should make every effort to seek out and expose to voters all elected officials that would vote or work on behalf of their own personal agenda or gain. This is the hard work and the noble goal. Let us not recklessly bar good people from services to their community. Barring anyone from seeking elected office based upon his or her lawful profession is wrong. This practice would not only deprive the city/county employee of their rights and since of duty, it would deprive the citizen/taxpayer of their rights and since of duty.

City/County employees pay taxes, serve on jury duty, vote in elections and does their best to conform to society’s order. How can they be stripped of any single part of being a complete citizen? I have personally made a commitment to be a Police Officer and be involved in politics to advance my community. I not only believe it is my right, I believe it is my duty. In addition to the many skills and experiences a Police Officer brings to the decision making process, a particular Officer may have other skills and experiences outside of police work that make him or her the most qualified for the position.

The citizen also has a duty and a right to vote for a candidate based on the citizen’s evaluation of that candidate’s merit for the position. The citizen should surely not be deprived of the best candidate to serve them because of that candidate’s lawful employment.

Every citizen and every elected official has a right and duty to be “watchdogs” against any kind of corruption. We should make every effort to seek out and expose to voters all elected officials that would vote or work on behalf of their own personal agenda or gain. This is the hard work and the noble goal. Let us not recklessly bar good people from services to their community.

]]> By: anonymous http://www.indianabarrister.com/archives/2008/03/rules_of_engagement.html/comment-page-1#comment-7624 anonymous Mon, 03 Mar 2008 13:06:10 +0000 http://www.indianabarrister.com/archives/2008/03/rules_of_engagement.html#comment-7624 People just aren't happy unless they have something to complain about. Lincoln has been a police officer for 20 years. Like all of us, he has made some mistakes but learned from them. Experience in investigations? How many people in charge of their respective unit went into investigations with any experience? We never stop learning so give the man an opportunity to show he is worthy of his appointment. People just aren’t happy unless they have something to complain about. Lincoln has been a police officer for 20 years. Like all of us, he has made some mistakes but learned from them. Experience in investigations? How many people in charge of their respective unit went into investigations with any experience? We never stop learning so give the man an opportunity to show he is worthy of his appointment.

]]> By: Front row spectator http://www.indianabarrister.com/archives/2008/03/rules_of_engagement.html/comment-page-1#comment-7622 Front row spectator Mon, 03 Mar 2008 11:34:22 +0000 http://www.indianabarrister.com/archives/2008/03/rules_of_engagement.html#comment-7622 "bright & charismatic"?! “bright & charismatic”?!

]]> By: Truth Teller http://www.indianabarrister.com/archives/2008/03/rules_of_engagement.html/comment-page-1#comment-7621 Truth Teller Mon, 03 Mar 2008 11:02:21 +0000 http://www.indianabarrister.com/archives/2008/03/rules_of_engagement.html#comment-7621 Not only does Lincoln have 10 years of military experience including MP and intel on top of his 20 years in law enforcement, but he also has FBI training, he went to detective school and also has state training. He had merit rank postitions under Anderson and Cottey. Sweet Pea can't even put two sentences together. Not only does Lincoln have 10 years of military experience including MP and intel on top of his 20 years in law enforcement, but he also has FBI training, he went to detective school and also has state training. He had merit rank postitions under Anderson and Cottey. Sweet Pea can’t even put two sentences together.

]]> By: Watcher on the Wall http://www.indianabarrister.com/archives/2008/03/rules_of_engagement.html/comment-page-1#comment-7617 Watcher on the Wall Mon, 03 Mar 2008 03:20:30 +0000 http://www.indianabarrister.com/archives/2008/03/rules_of_engagement.html#comment-7617 And this means he is still FAR overpaid. The left in Marion County have no clue about ethics. Oh! that's right YOU support Andre'. You also rode the hem of Julia knowing the wrong doing that she was doing along with her cronies. And this means he is still FAR overpaid. The left in Marion County have no clue about ethics. Oh! that’s right YOU support Andre’. You also rode the hem of Julia knowing the wrong doing that she was doing along with her cronies.

]]> By: Wilson46201 http://www.indianabarrister.com/archives/2008/03/rules_of_engagement.html/comment-page-1#comment-7615 Wilson46201 Sun, 02 Mar 2008 23:54:06 +0000 http://www.indianabarrister.com/archives/2008/03/rules_of_engagement.html#comment-7615 Monroe Gray is now comfortably retired from IFD and still an elected City/County Councilor, having been re-elected again just last November. Monroe Gray is now comfortably retired from IFD and still an elected City/County Councilor, having been re-elected again just last November.

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