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BLACK OR FEMALE?

Hilary Clinton is in Indiana today.  She’s making stops in Evansville, Terre Haute and Anderson.  Her visit here today and Barack Obama’s on Saturday got me to thinking, which would America elect first a Black President or a woman President?

I think a Black would get elected first.

History is my best indicator for making this statement.  If you look at this country’s past Blacks have always been “accepted” before women. 

The 15th Amendment which gave Blacks the right to vote was ratified  in 1870.  The 19th Amendment which gave women the right to vote wasn’t ratified until 1920.

The Civil Rights movement was the hallmark of the 1960s.  The women’s rights movement came in the 1970s.

There’s also that theory that it’s easier to bridge differences of race rather than gender because we all know that men and women are wired differently. So while a black man and white man may come from different backgorunds, they’re both men so they have a similar thought process. 

And if you still don’t believe me think about this, who would you prefer not to get into an argument with, your wife or your best bud?

Your thoughts.

  • MissouriDemocrat

    Using that last question, who do you sleep with and who will withhold sex if you dont do what they say Abdul? Your best buddy or your wife? Women have long controlled most families…. so I am going with the woman over the black president, however that beings said, I think all this rancor in the party will lead John McCain to rent a U-Haul for his move early.

  • http://infredheads.blogspot.com Joel

    My recollection, though, is that there was a woman elected mayor of some town down in Texas before women got the right to vote.
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    That being said, I personally think that it will end up being whichever of the two demographics comes up with the most acceptable candidate first.
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    It wouldn’t surprise me if the first minority or woman elected President would be Louisiana’s Governor Jindal.

  • Shorebreak

    Ultimately, sex and race won’t matter. It will come down to who is counting and reporting the election results.
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    But at this point, it doesn’t really matter which remaining candidate is elected. Whether the Dems or the GOP take the White House, we’re still going to have Bernanke trashing the dollar and the economy, a la Greenspan.
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    We’re still going to have soldiers rotating into the Middle East to the tune of billions of $$$ per month.
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    We’re going to continue to expose the US economy to unregulated, near-slave labor market competition.
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    We’re still going to be homogenizing our government agencies, our military functions, and core domestic/foreign policies with those of Mexico and Canada.
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    We’re still going to have leadership that wants to nationalize healthcare so that the same government who robbed Social Security, who undermined domestic industry, and who has bastardized education, can now have complete control over our health care – at the cost of a substantial tax increase.
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    We’re still going to have executive leadership who approves Congressional legislation without ever questioning whether or not the material was delegated to the federal government.
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    We’re still going to keep our borders unprotected.
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    We’re still going to have leadership who places global foreign policy ahead of the needs of American taxpayers.
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    etc, etc, etc. The list of “we’ll still have’s” is endless.
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    With our current remaining GOP/Dem candidates, our future remains on the same course that it’s been on for the past several decades. White House loyalty to UN/IMF/World Bank policies will continue to reign supreme. The only difference will be the icing on the surface, and how the media spins it to cover the fact that once again, we have a leader who’s hell bent on using our resources for global intervention and integration rather than for national prosperity and preserving/protecting the integrity of the sovereign US Constitution.

  • Democan

    Who the H.ll is Jindal? If he is not black he had not paid his dues. Period.

  • Greg Wright

    American Indians were the last group to get the right to vote. The Indian Citizenship Act of 1924 gave my grandparents’ generation the right to vote.

    It was not until 1956 that the State of Utah became the last State to grant that right.

  • Bob Miller

    Should we care? Symbolism is far less important than doing the job properly.

  • http://infredheads.blogspot.com Joel

    Democan, paying “dues” for being a minority is not a qualification for anything. I am certainly not convinced that Obama has faced such issues that he has “paid dues”. Jindal is a competent, bold leader. He is young and relatively inexperienced, but he is getting that experience right now. His early results are very good.
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    Now the reason that Jindal will be pilloried is that he is a conservative. Apparently the only minorities that pay dues are those who have decided that they are liberal.

  • Watcher on the Wall

    1887 – Susanna Medora Salter becomes the first woman elected mayor of an American town, in Argonia, Kansas.

    The 19th Amendment is passed in 1920

  • http://infredheads.blogspot.com Joel

    Thanks Watcher! I’ll try to remember: Kansas, not Texas.

  • Snark

    My thoughts?

    Abdul Hakim-Shabazz is a male chauvinist pig.

  • Joe

    I couldn’t vote for Hillary even if her politics made sense to me. Her voice reminds me too much of Sister Mary Elephant or Fran Drescher. BRRRRRRR!!!!

  • http://www.myspace.com/redlightdriver derek

    I just don’t want some old Republican OR a Clinton in the White House again. That’s it… that’s all I really want. How sad is that? And, for you property rights over human rights people, I believe an elected Obama would bring positive stimulus to our economy. At least foreign investors (everyone outside the States for that matter) would think differently of America as a whole – that we might not be what we have been. It’s unfortunate that we don’t care about the wake we make.

  • MissouriDemocrat

    no wonder this nation is a mess. being black by itself doesn’t qualify you to be president. perceived good will on the world stage is also no a reason to elect a president. not wanting a “clinton” in the white house again is not a reason to vote against hillary. not a single person running seems to have the “vision” thing that reagan possessed albeit his vision was not mine. trickle down trickled up out of me. the supreme qualification to me is honesty on where you’d like to lead us strongly combined with what your program for rebuilding the mess we are in. everyone ranting against national healthcare has healthcare. having been diagnosed with cancer recently and having no healthcare taught me that once again its the haves against the have nots. of course the haves are the limbaugh/garrison/hannity/beck hate ranters that extol how the dems dont accept others ideas when in fact it is they that will never accept others ideas. burn every book but the bible, force everyone to conform to your idea of morality, etc. if there was a mountain somewhere that i could enjoy the internet on and life a decent life, i’d move to it.

  • Democan

    Dear Joel: As a person of color I resent your remarks. I am now sure you are one of those closet Republicans. You probably use your office computer to get to this site. What else do you look at????????

  • Greg

    Wow Democan, you don’t have an agenda, do you?
    Why is it so difficult for a liberal to have an honest disagreement or debate without immediately getting personal. Just an observation.

  • Uncommon Sense

    It comes down to this: Who is the best candidate? If Herman Kane runs, I won’t be able to get to the voting booth fast enough (and I’m white). That guy is golden, since he’s all about personal responsibility. If my mother runs, I’d vote for her, since she appears to be smarter than most in government and understands how to balance a budget. If they both ran concurrently…the world would be a better place regardless.

  • MissouriDemocrat

    i used to think a barbara bush/hillary clinton ticket would be fun….. hillary in black leather chaps, bill with a dog collar, barbara is black leather chaps, all on the house podium for the state of the union…. oh, i think thats one of my perverted dreams again! LOL.

  • Kole

    It’s sad when these are the criteria by which so many will choose, rather than on judgment of policy.

    I’m with Uncommon- I’d contribute to and vote for Herman Kane, or Walter Williams, or Thomas Sowell in a heartbeat, because of the kind of policy they would bring to the table. As it is, my ballots are usually cast fairly empty, since there isn’t a place allocated for “None Of The Above”.

  • Shorebreak

    I have a suggestion for a new selection to be placed at the top of every ballot:
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    “Remove every single incumbant”
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    Can we have a referendum please to make that a mandatory ballot item?
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    FYI, in contrast to our crippled leadership, Russia has just passed a law requiring that all sales of critical manufacturing/infrastructure to foreign entities must be approved by the Russian Parliament. And last week, a Russian company leveraged our weakened dollar to buy one of our largest remaining steel manufacturers for a little over $800 million.
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    If we can’t replace every incumbant ASAP with patriotic reps who place the US first, the door will be wide open for foreign nations to swallow us whole as our dollar continues it’s downward spiral.

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