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	<title>Comments on: ALAS POOR TDW, I KNEW IT WELL!  A BLOG OF INFINITE JEST AND EXCELLENT FANCY!</title>
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	<pubDate>Tue, 02 Dec 2008 20:09:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: lyingmikecunegin</title>
		<link>http://www.indianabarrister.com/archives/2008/03/alas_poor_tdw_i_knew_it_well_a_blog_of_infinite_jest_and_excellent_fancy.html#comment-8811</link>
		<dc:creator>lyingmikecunegin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Apr 2008 13:02:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I mistakenly lied, sorry.

Mike Cunegin</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I mistakenly lied, sorry.</p>
<p>Mike Cunegin</p>
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		<title>By: Raised Right</title>
		<link>http://www.indianabarrister.com/archives/2008/03/alas_poor_tdw_i_knew_it_well_a_blog_of_infinite_jest_and_excellent_fancy.html#comment-8749</link>
		<dc:creator>Raised Right</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Apr 2008 17:41:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Too bad she walked away before getting a chance to rail on the latest news of more Mitch-insider, mid-deeds as reported by the Ft. Wayne Gazette.  Abdul, this one involves your buddy, Mike Cunegin.  

http://www.journalgazette.net/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=2008803300318</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Too bad she walked away before getting a chance to rail on the latest news of more Mitch-insider, mid-deeds as reported by the Ft. Wayne Gazette.  Abdul, this one involves your buddy, Mike Cunegin.  </p>
<p><a href="http://www.journalgazette.net/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=2008803300318" rel="nofollow">http://www.journalgazette.net/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=2008803300318</a></p>
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		<title>By: anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Mar 2008 09:23:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Anon, it sounds as though the school boards need to get a handle on their business or go.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anon, it sounds as though the school boards need to get a handle on their business or go.</p>
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		<title>By: Anon.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anon.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Mar 2008 01:41:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A prime example of how architects work is the school 84 project.  Schellinger's idea was to tear down three houses next to the school because he designed a huge, overblown, un-needed add-on.  Jim knew from the work that he did across the street at the Catholic church/school that people didn't want to loose another old unique house in the neighborhood because they stopped him from tearing down the church rectory.  Well, Jim's a smart guy,  he knew that if he drew up plans to remove houses for the 84 project that the people would pitch a fit and guess what?  He was right.  Guess who got to draw up a whole new set of plans and charge us, the tax payers?  And while we are on that subject, why was the architecture firm running the neighborhood meetings informing the public about the building project?  That seems like a school board or superintendent job to me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A prime example of how architects work is the school 84 project.  Schellinger&#8217;s idea was to tear down three houses next to the school because he designed a huge, overblown, un-needed add-on.  Jim knew from the work that he did across the street at the Catholic church/school that people didn&#8217;t want to loose another old unique house in the neighborhood because they stopped him from tearing down the church rectory.  Well, Jim&#8217;s a smart guy,  he knew that if he drew up plans to remove houses for the 84 project that the people would pitch a fit and guess what?  He was right.  Guess who got to draw up a whole new set of plans and charge us, the tax payers?  And while we are on that subject, why was the architecture firm running the neighborhood meetings informing the public about the building project?  That seems like a school board or superintendent job to me.</p>
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		<title>By: flipper</title>
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		<dc:creator>flipper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Mar 2008 01:37:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To keep this politically correct.

Jen!
I'm going to miss you as much as a bad case of a S.T.D.

flipper</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To keep this politically correct.</p>
<p>Jen!<br />
I&#8217;m going to miss you as much as a bad case of a S.T.D.</p>
<p>flipper</p>
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		<title>By: NoName</title>
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		<dc:creator>NoName</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Mar 2008 01:26:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"You people do realize that architects are hired by schools, and that they don’t get paid more if the project is more expensive."

Ugh, no, they get a % of construction costs.  Plus they also like to make recommendations which waste energy (large, open air atrium).  This is why they push for the biggest dollar amount projects, and then become a "consensus builder."  The goal of Schellinger and his ilk is to aim high.  This is the test of the district.  If enough people bitch, then they come in and claim they understand.  They then try to figure out the highest $ amount the community will accept.  It is all about their personal bank accounts and their company portfolio.  It is never about the tax payer, never about education.

Runaway construction costs are causing taxes to spike quickly upwards.  The entire educational industrial complex knows this.  They are a huge group: ISTA, principal associations, superintendent association, architect associations, etc..  They decided that hundreds of lobbyist are not good enough.  They needed to have one of their own infiltrate state government to make sure the money keeps flowing.  If they are successful with Schellinger, education spending will spike to the stratosphere.  Thousands will flee Indiana and it will become one big heavily taxed ghetto.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;You people do realize that architects are hired by schools, and that they don’t get paid more if the project is more expensive.&#8221;</p>
<p>Ugh, no, they get a % of construction costs.  Plus they also like to make recommendations which waste energy (large, open air atrium).  This is why they push for the biggest dollar amount projects, and then become a &#8220;consensus builder.&#8221;  The goal of Schellinger and his ilk is to aim high.  This is the test of the district.  If enough people bitch, then they come in and claim they understand.  They then try to figure out the highest $ amount the community will accept.  It is all about their personal bank accounts and their company portfolio.  It is never about the tax payer, never about education.</p>
<p>Runaway construction costs are causing taxes to spike quickly upwards.  The entire educational industrial complex knows this.  They are a huge group: ISTA, principal associations, superintendent association, architect associations, etc..  They decided that hundreds of lobbyist are not good enough.  They needed to have one of their own infiltrate state government to make sure the money keeps flowing.  If they are successful with Schellinger, education spending will spike to the stratosphere.  Thousands will flee Indiana and it will become one big heavily taxed ghetto.</p>
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		<title>By: Bob</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Mar 2008 00:52:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>PS

You people do realize that architects are hired by schools, and that they don't get paid more if the project is more expensive.  What you're trying to do is like blaming your accountant when your taxes are high.

PSS Melyssa, sorry your tax bill's going up.  Nice Indy Monthly article too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>PS</p>
<p>You people do realize that architects are hired by schools, and that they don&#8217;t get paid more if the project is more expensive.  What you&#8217;re trying to do is like blaming your accountant when your taxes are high.</p>
<p>PSS Melyssa, sorry your tax bill&#8217;s going up.  Nice Indy Monthly article too.</p>
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		<title>By: Bob</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Mar 2008 00:29:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>God, CSO does architecture work for schools.  Amazing.  Look at most of their projects and they are for private businesses.

All you Republicans should be bitching at Lilly for charging people for drugs - they're making money on people - for shame!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>God, CSO does architecture work for schools.  Amazing.  Look at most of their projects and they are for private businesses.</p>
<p>All you Republicans should be bitching at Lilly for charging people for drugs - they&#8217;re making money on people - for shame!</p>
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		<title>By: Jen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Mar 2008 18:35:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks, everyone. Even those of you who are happy to see me go.

It's been fun, and Abdul's right: We all want this state to be a better place.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks, everyone. Even those of you who are happy to see me go.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s been fun, and Abdul&#8217;s right: We all want this state to be a better place.</p>
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		<title>By: Think Again</title>
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		<dc:creator>Think Again</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Mar 2008 18:25:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It's a pretty interesting circle, Greg.  It is difficult to bust it up.  Decades of unholy alliances between superintendents and architects/GC companies, have made it worse.

Clear-thinking superintendents.  Clear-thinking school boards.  That's what we need.

What we DON'T need is to elect a governor who's from that circular firing squad.

He may be a nice guy, but he's part and parcel of the problem.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s a pretty interesting circle, Greg.  It is difficult to bust it up.  Decades of unholy alliances between superintendents and architects/GC companies, have made it worse.</p>
<p>Clear-thinking superintendents.  Clear-thinking school boards.  That&#8217;s what we need.</p>
<p>What we DON&#8217;T need is to elect a governor who&#8217;s from that circular firing squad.</p>
<p>He may be a nice guy, but he&#8217;s part and parcel of the problem.</p>
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