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	<title>Comments on: OOPS!!!</title>
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	<pubDate>Tue, 02 Dec 2008 21:26:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Dewey</title>
		<link>http://www.indianabarrister.com/archives/2008/02/oops.html#comment-7659</link>
		<dc:creator>Dewey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Mar 2008 22:52:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Don't forget, Daniels OK'd that so-called four billion dollar mistake.  He is in deep doodoo!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don&#8217;t forget, Daniels OK&#8217;d that so-called four billion dollar mistake.  He is in deep doodoo!</p>
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		<title>By: Really</title>
		<link>http://www.indianabarrister.com/archives/2008/02/oops.html#comment-7656</link>
		<dc:creator>Really</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Mar 2008 22:42:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Abbie,  show us the numbers that were 4b off?  Just words to keep your blog and radio show going.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Abbie,  show us the numbers that were 4b off?  Just words to keep your blog and radio show going.</p>
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		<title>By: John Howard</title>
		<link>http://www.indianabarrister.com/archives/2008/02/oops.html#comment-7655</link>
		<dc:creator>John Howard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Mar 2008 21:36:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"Wilson46201 
February 29th, 2008 at 1:25 pm 
A whore gets paid for services.
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Melyssa gave it away - Eric Miller and John Price want cash!"

That, from someone who writes things like:

"Good citizens discuss issues.
Good voters discuss candidates.
Anonymous gossips discuss me."

"Non-anonymous" gossips:  They seem not to be any better.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Wilson46201<br />
February 29th, 2008 at 1:25 pm<br />
A whore gets paid for services.<br />
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Melyssa gave it away - Eric Miller and John Price want cash!&#8221;</p>
<p>That, from someone who writes things like:</p>
<p>&#8220;Good citizens discuss issues.<br />
Good voters discuss candidates.<br />
Anonymous gossips discuss me.&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;Non-anonymous&#8221; gossips:  They seem not to be any better.</p>
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		<title>By: Moneyguy</title>
		<link>http://www.indianabarrister.com/archives/2008/02/oops.html#comment-7653</link>
		<dc:creator>Moneyguy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Mar 2008 20:58:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It shows you where the priorities lie in Marion county. Yes folks with the business people. The only problem is when  their taxes go up they will either raise prices or lay off  employees. No real winner here until we find a way to cut government spending.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It shows you where the priorities lie in Marion county. Yes folks with the business people. The only problem is when  their taxes go up they will either raise prices or lay off  employees. No real winner here until we find a way to cut government spending.</p>
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		<title>By: Angry Mob</title>
		<link>http://www.indianabarrister.com/archives/2008/02/oops.html#comment-7649</link>
		<dc:creator>Angry Mob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Mar 2008 20:25:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Being off by $4 BILLION is not a mistake, it is a crime.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Being off by $4 BILLION is not a mistake, it is a crime.</p>
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		<title>By: A SIMPLE QUESTION &#124; Indiana Barrister</title>
		<link>http://www.indianabarrister.com/archives/2008/02/oops.html#comment-7623</link>
		<dc:creator>A SIMPLE QUESTION &#124; Indiana Barrister</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Mar 2008 13:00:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] me ask you a simple question.  If you made a mistake at your job which cost your company $4 billion, how long do you think you would be able to keep [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] me ask you a simple question.  If you made a mistake at your job which cost your company $4 billion, how long do you think you would be able to keep [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Dave</title>
		<link>http://www.indianabarrister.com/archives/2008/02/oops.html#comment-7605</link>
		<dc:creator>Dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Mar 2008 18:13:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>God bless Abdul, for doing that which others in media are either unqualified or afraid to do- REPORT news that's relevant to, and has impact upon the lives of citizens.  What's up with the current and conspicuous news blackout on a $4,000,000,000. ERROR in one county ?!?

[insert sound effects]  Knock-knock.  "Hello, is anybody listening?  Hello?"  Hey newsies, four billion is the number four, with nine zeros behind it.  An under or over assessment is akin to an under or over charge, where the wrong amount is charged (that's less than good) on what is supposed to be a standard or basis, which if you haven't noticed, WE DON'T HAVE.

Sparking the comprehension gap requires commitment.  Other than Abdul, there's no commitment to work product by other media, thereby minimizing their impact and importance, by failing so profoundly to do so.  Advertiser dollars are better spent with the bloggery.  Citizens don't want someone to blame; they want transparent policies, methods &#38; government.  That's not too much to ask.  Drive-by neglect of the media is destructive to our liberty.    

NO CAP will protect taxpayers from: the systematic abuses of over or under assessments (subjective guesses, vs. objective transactions or realities like sales), hyper / neighborhood  factoring, or all too permissable increases (like doubling) in what are supposed to be "maximum" permissable levies.  This latest $4B DLGF (8 commissioners in 10 years?), assessment debacle, makes clear that caps are not protection but an ill advised, over-sold gimmick.  Is aluminum siding, always the answer, or might there be better ideas out there (repeal / replace)? 

Under the baseless property tax assessment system (devoid standard), we're in for many more years of electioneered, roller coaster rides; with homeowners and business property owners trading highs and lows, to minimize any damage to incumbents at the polls.  Yeah, it's about service alright, self service.       

So we're going to keep this "can't imagine a better system," the only basis for which is GREED (not nostalgia)?  Greed is a standard of degradation, not progress (which requires transparency).  Keeping the assessment system and standard that produces $4B errors is an answer to what, exactly?  "Hello, is anybody listening?  Hello?"</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>God bless Abdul, for doing that which others in media are either unqualified or afraid to do- REPORT news that&#8217;s relevant to, and has impact upon the lives of citizens.  What&#8217;s up with the current and conspicuous news blackout on a $4,000,000,000. ERROR in one county ?!?</p>
<p>[insert sound effects]  Knock-knock.  &#8220;Hello, is anybody listening?  Hello?&#8221;  Hey newsies, four billion is the number four, with nine zeros behind it.  An under or over assessment is akin to an under or over charge, where the wrong amount is charged (that&#8217;s less than good) on what is supposed to be a standard or basis, which if you haven&#8217;t noticed, WE DON&#8217;T HAVE.</p>
<p>Sparking the comprehension gap requires commitment.  Other than Abdul, there&#8217;s no commitment to work product by other media, thereby minimizing their impact and importance, by failing so profoundly to do so.  Advertiser dollars are better spent with the bloggery.  Citizens don&#8217;t want someone to blame; they want transparent policies, methods &amp; government.  That&#8217;s not too much to ask.  Drive-by neglect of the media is destructive to our liberty.    </p>
<p>NO CAP will protect taxpayers from: the systematic abuses of over or under assessments (subjective guesses, vs. objective transactions or realities like sales), hyper / neighborhood  factoring, or all too permissable increases (like doubling) in what are supposed to be &#8220;maximum&#8221; permissable levies.  This latest $4B DLGF (8 commissioners in 10 years?), assessment debacle, makes clear that caps are not protection but an ill advised, over-sold gimmick.  Is aluminum siding, always the answer, or might there be better ideas out there (repeal / replace)? </p>
<p>Under the baseless property tax assessment system (devoid standard), we&#8217;re in for many more years of electioneered, roller coaster rides; with homeowners and business property owners trading highs and lows, to minimize any damage to incumbents at the polls.  Yeah, it&#8217;s about service alright, self service.       </p>
<p>So we&#8217;re going to keep this &#8220;can&#8217;t imagine a better system,&#8221; the only basis for which is GREED (not nostalgia)?  Greed is a standard of degradation, not progress (which requires transparency).  Keeping the assessment system and standard that produces $4B errors is an answer to what, exactly?  &#8220;Hello, is anybody listening?  Hello?&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Abdul-Hakim</title>
		<link>http://www.indianabarrister.com/archives/2008/02/oops.html#comment-7600</link>
		<dc:creator>Abdul-Hakim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Mar 2008 03:04:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>PIR,

Just so you know, Merritt was in favor of getting rid of the assessors, he just wanted to do it on a statewide level.  Much like the way Bill Crawford now wants to address the township trustee issue. Thought you should be reminded of that fact.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>PIR,</p>
<p>Just so you know, Merritt was in favor of getting rid of the assessors, he just wanted to do it on a statewide level.  Much like the way Bill Crawford now wants to address the township trustee issue. Thought you should be reminded of that fact.</p>
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		<title>By: Proud Indy Resident</title>
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		<dc:creator>Proud Indy Resident</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Mar 2008 01:37:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>By the way, who was the first person to recommend getting rid of the township assessors.....yes, thats right:  Bart Peterson.

And who protected the township assessors in 2005, 2006 and 2007....yes:  Mike Young, Phil Hinkle, Brian Bosma and Jim Merritt.

Dont even bring up the Bill Crawford stuff.  He was protecting trustees.  Merritt was protecting assessors.  If you dont remember, check some of Abduls past blogs.

At least Crawfords patrongae didnt cost us 4 billion.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>By the way, who was the first person to recommend getting rid of the township assessors&#8230;..yes, thats right:  Bart Peterson.</p>
<p>And who protected the township assessors in 2005, 2006 and 2007&#8230;.yes:  Mike Young, Phil Hinkle, Brian Bosma and Jim Merritt.</p>
<p>Dont even bring up the Bill Crawford stuff.  He was protecting trustees.  Merritt was protecting assessors.  If you dont remember, check some of Abduls past blogs.</p>
<p>At least Crawfords patrongae didnt cost us 4 billion.</p>
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		<title>By: Taxpayer</title>
		<link>http://www.indianabarrister.com/archives/2008/02/oops.html#comment-7567</link>
		<dc:creator>Taxpayer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Mar 2008 01:44:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Red-Headed Step-Child, I believe you have finally revealed how our property assessments were calculated.  There's no other way they could have come up with the ludicrous amount they tell us our house is worth -- and then tax us over and over on that amount, which we could only get by selling our home... possibly on Second Life.  No one in THIS universe would pay that much for it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Red-Headed Step-Child, I believe you have finally revealed how our property assessments were calculated.  There&#8217;s no other way they could have come up with the ludicrous amount they tell us our house is worth &#8212; and then tax us over and over on that amount, which we could only get by selling our home&#8230; possibly on Second Life.  No one in THIS universe would pay that much for it.</p>
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