Comments on: IS VERN BROWN THE NEW “HNIC”?

By: tired of it

tired of it — Mon, 10 Sep 2007 18:47:53 +0000

Someone help me out here. If Vern Brown eliminated these 3 Firefighters because of their skin color,is this discrimination. He could have said we need more women and Blacks but he didn’t. He only threw out the names because they were White. Reverse this if a White superior threw out a list because they were Black and stated it, that is discrimination, and we’ve all seen it. Do these 3 Firefighters have a case here ,is there anyone out there that would take the case. The City pays off like a slot machine. Isn’t it time we treated everyone with fairness and respect.

By: Anonymous

Anonymous — Fri, 07 Sep 2007 05:42:30 +0000

3:57 You can’t be serious with your convoluted way of thinking, are you??????

It is wrong to consider race when hiring or promoting. The bottom line is: let the best person win!

By: Employee

Employee — Fri, 07 Sep 2007 01:18:27 +0000

anomymous 6:05 that comment is why Females win discrimination cases,you just helped prove their point.

By: citizen

citizen — Fri, 07 Sep 2007 01:13:42 +0000

Ed, isn’t that called segregation

By: Anonymous

Anonymous — Fri, 07 Sep 2007 00:51:38 +0000

Yes indeed ~ there is a “lily white list”. It’s the “white guy” list, and used to separate out the white males and hire them only on a one for one basis with everyone else.

By: Anonymous

Anonymous — Fri, 07 Sep 2007 00:05:12 +0000

Are we talking about the female firefighter in administration who gets captain’s pay and a take home vehicle and her only job is to put together a fire department year book. The same female who went to bed with Greeson to get the job and the same female prior to her being accepted by IFD was a contract person assigned to take pictures of all firefighters and their stations and the same female who went to bed with all she could to get on the department. I think her nickname is still ” The picture lady”

By: Anonymous

Anonymous — Thu, 06 Sep 2007 21:57:44 +0000

“The city has already been sued by the Federal Government for documented reverse discrimination for hiring not based upon merit but race. It is wrong to consider race when hiring or promoting. The bottom line is: let the best person win!”

There is no such thing as “reverse discrimination.” Using that logic, it means that the only people who can discriminate is white people. Discrimination is just that, reguardless of who is doing it.

Maybe it is time to use population as a factor. Only black officers can patrol black neighborhoods. Those black officers will be supervised by black admin. Hispanic officers will be used to police areas that are heavy hispanic. Again, their supervisors will be hispanic. On these police vehicles, the word “Police” will be replaced with “Policia.” Since a small % of our population only speaks Spanish, no English, the police department will be forced to convert that same % of their department to Spanish speaking only officers. Bi-lingual will not cut it, they _must_ reflect our population of people who speak Spanish _only_!

By: Ed

Ed — Thu, 06 Sep 2007 21:52:06 +0000

You know something? If my house is on fire I couldn’t care less what color the firefighters are! I would even care less who their superiors are.
The point is, they have a job to do and they do it well and without a whole lot of bitching.
After over 40 years some people, black and white, just need to park the race bus they’ve been riding for years, throw away the keys and get on with more important problem happening in this town.
If Vern Brown is playing with fire he certainly must know that eventually he’ll get burned. I’m not ready to throw him under the same race bus that Wilson’s been driving his whole life.

By: Firefighter

Firefighter — Thu, 06 Sep 2007 20:03:26 +0000

The names that were taken to the the Chief are simply the ones that showed an interest. It is not a promotion list, the job comes with a temp. rank that you lose when you leave the position. Not every Firefighter is willing to give up the 24/48 schedule to work 5 days a week. Head of training and Special OP’s takes a special background and experence. Of the top 8 positions in Adminstration 3 are white 4 are Black 1 is classified as non white. Of the three top positions in suppression 2 are Black and one is white. Seems pretty diverse to me,and yes we have one female FF because she was the only one that would give up the 24/48 cycle.

By: Abdul

Abdul — Thu, 06 Sep 2007 19:32:27 +0000

Anon 10:35,

My “N” stands for Negro. What word are you thinking of?