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		<title>By: louise</title>
		<link>http://www.indianabarrister.com/archives/2007/06/the_p_in_ips_should_stand_for.html/comment-page-1#comment-2332</link>
		<dc:creator>louise</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jul 2007 12:19:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: louise</title>
		<link>http://www.indianabarrister.com/archives/2007/06/the_p_in_ips_should_stand_for.html/comment-page-1#comment-2331</link>
		<dc:creator>louise</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jul 2007 12:19:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: louise</title>
		<link>http://www.indianabarrister.com/archives/2007/06/the_p_in_ips_should_stand_for.html/comment-page-1#comment-2330</link>
		<dc:creator>louise</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jul 2007 12:19:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: joshua jvc</title>
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		<dc:creator>joshua jvc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jul 2007 05:19:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was happy to watch it --

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		<title>By: joshua jvc</title>
		<link>http://www.indianabarrister.com/archives/2007/06/the_p_in_ips_should_stand_for.html/comment-page-1#comment-2328</link>
		<dc:creator>joshua jvc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jul 2007 05:19:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was happy to watch it --

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		<title>By: joshua jvc</title>
		<link>http://www.indianabarrister.com/archives/2007/06/the_p_in_ips_should_stand_for.html/comment-page-1#comment-2327</link>
		<dc:creator>joshua jvc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jul 2007 05:19:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was happy to watch it --

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		<title>By: Jason</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jason</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Jun 2007 16:21:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Former IPS Student, some private schools &#039;screen&#039; students.  I&#039;ve never heard of a school run by the Catholic church that did (and most private schools in the city are run by the Catholic church.)

About the expulsion ratio, that&#039;s probably the problem.  They need to start importing nuns into IPS who don&#039;t put up with BS.  If I want to learn in IPS I have to do it with that anchor who sits in the back of class screaming for attention like a 3-year-old and picking fights at lunchtime.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Former IPS Student, some private schools &#8217;screen&#8217; students.  I&#8217;ve never heard of a school run by the Catholic church that did (and most private schools in the city are run by the Catholic church.)</p>
<p>About the expulsion ratio, that&#8217;s probably the problem.  They need to start importing nuns into IPS who don&#8217;t put up with BS.  If I want to learn in IPS I have to do it with that anchor who sits in the back of class screaming for attention like a 3-year-old and picking fights at lunchtime.</p>
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		<title>By: Former IPS Student</title>
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		<dc:creator>Former IPS Student</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Jun 2007 16:34:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No, I disagree with privatizing IPS. As an alumni of the IPS System, 30-40 years ago IPS had excellent teaching staffs and the majority of your local leaders from this community attended an IPS school.

Many of the proposal Dr. white has been able to implement will definitely help to restore the districts reputation.

1)  IPS is the largest school district in the State of Indiana and is open to any and all students within the boundaries of the old city with the largest number of students with disabilities,handicaps and  needing special education.
These categories of students require more funding per child to educate.

3) IPS has a larger number of school buildings to maintain, a larger adminstrative, teaching, maintenance, bus drivers, social workers, security staff, teaching materials, etc.

2)  The media has focused on most of the negatives in IPS rather than the positives. And there are more positives in IPS because there are more students and special programs.

3)IPS is over 52% black and minority student body, low to moderate income families, some middle class. Other school districts in Marion County have had the same problems with their students but it has not be widely publicized. (ex. gangs, drugs, fights, vandelism, sex, dropouts,etc.)

4)By design public education across this country has been sabotoged by the powers-the-that-be since the late 1960s when schools were order to integrate.

5) A quality education is the key to having a successful future. Why have our politicians failed to properly fund public educationa over the years to insure teaching professionals are paid well.  Our legislators have no problem voting themselves pay raises and lifetime benefit packages.

6) Private school already screen students from families who can economically afford to attend and support the schools.

7) Private schools expell and suspend students at a higher rate than public schools when the student fails to achieve or measure up to its codes of ethical conduct.  Those student usually return to public schools to finish their education.


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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No, I disagree with privatizing IPS. As an alumni of the IPS System, 30-40 years ago IPS had excellent teaching staffs and the majority of your local leaders from this community attended an IPS school.</p>
<p>Many of the proposal Dr. white has been able to implement will definitely help to restore the districts reputation.</p>
<p>1)  IPS is the largest school district in the State of Indiana and is open to any and all students within the boundaries of the old city with the largest number of students with disabilities,handicaps and  needing special education.<br />
These categories of students require more funding per child to educate.</p>
<p>3) IPS has a larger number of school buildings to maintain, a larger adminstrative, teaching, maintenance, bus drivers, social workers, security staff, teaching materials, etc.</p>
<p>2)  The media has focused on most of the negatives in IPS rather than the positives. And there are more positives in IPS because there are more students and special programs.</p>
<p>3)IPS is over 52% black and minority student body, low to moderate income families, some middle class. Other school districts in Marion County have had the same problems with their students but it has not be widely publicized. (ex. gangs, drugs, fights, vandelism, sex, dropouts,etc.)</p>
<p>4)By design public education across this country has been sabotoged by the powers-the-that-be since the late 1960s when schools were order to integrate.</p>
<p>5) A quality education is the key to having a successful future. Why have our politicians failed to properly fund public educationa over the years to insure teaching professionals are paid well.  Our legislators have no problem voting themselves pay raises and lifetime benefit packages.</p>
<p>6) Private school already screen students from families who can economically afford to attend and support the schools.</p>
<p>7) Private schools expell and suspend students at a higher rate than public schools when the student fails to achieve or measure up to its codes of ethical conduct.  Those student usually return to public schools to finish their education.</p>
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		<title>By: Doug</title>
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		<dc:creator>Doug</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Jun 2007 19:36:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My Two Cents -- Would you require all private schools that take voucher money to accept any and all applicants at a cost not more than the voucher amount?
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My Two Cents &#8212; Would you require all private schools that take voucher money to accept any and all applicants at a cost not more than the voucher amount?</p>
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		<title>By: My Two Cents</title>
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		<dc:creator>My Two Cents</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Jun 2007 01:37:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Doug,

Two things for you to consider:

1) IPS will spend over $14,000 per student this year.  Tuition at Park Tudor, the most expensive private school in the state, is $13,000.  The townships and donut districts aren&#039;t quite as high (somewhere just north of $10,000 per student), but the average Catholic elementary tuition is about $4000 (for  non-parishioners) and less for families with multiple kids.  So the money spent by public schools would be PLENTY to entice private schools to take more kids. No problem.

2) The experience with choice, including charter schools right here in Indy, is that the most expensive, most challenging kids are the ones who take those choices.  It is not, as you suggest, the good kids who leave.  Any why would they?  They are doing quite well.  In fact, if you are doing well at, let&#039;s say, Broad Ripple HS, why would you even think about leaving?  An &quot;A&quot; student at BRHS would likely be &quot;C&quot; or worse student at Chatard.  (Say goodbye to that scholarship!)

So, if you want more &quot;tough&quot; kids to go to private school, then open the doors and let those students leave.  They will.  It&#039;s already been proven.  And the result for districts like IPS will be fewer students with higher average performance levels.   Who loses in that situation?  Other than the teachers unions?
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Doug,</p>
<p>Two things for you to consider:</p>
<p>1) IPS will spend over $14,000 per student this year.  Tuition at Park Tudor, the most expensive private school in the state, is $13,000.  The townships and donut districts aren&#8217;t quite as high (somewhere just north of $10,000 per student), but the average Catholic elementary tuition is about $4000 (for  non-parishioners) and less for families with multiple kids.  So the money spent by public schools would be PLENTY to entice private schools to take more kids. No problem.</p>
<p>2) The experience with choice, including charter schools right here in Indy, is that the most expensive, most challenging kids are the ones who take those choices.  It is not, as you suggest, the good kids who leave.  Any why would they?  They are doing quite well.  In fact, if you are doing well at, let&#8217;s say, Broad Ripple HS, why would you even think about leaving?  An &#8220;A&#8221; student at BRHS would likely be &#8220;C&#8221; or worse student at Chatard.  (Say goodbye to that scholarship!)</p>
<p>So, if you want more &#8220;tough&#8221; kids to go to private school, then open the doors and let those students leave.  They will.  It&#8217;s already been proven.  And the result for districts like IPS will be fewer students with higher average performance levels.   Who loses in that situation?  Other than the teachers unions?</p>
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